Boycott the boycotters of Berkeley

don't forget that it was Shirley Dean and the other regressives on the berkeley board who are responsible for the final form of the resolution

http://www.indybay.org/2001/10/107012.php
And remember that this whole [boycott-Berkeley] thing was stirred up by Berkeley's own mayor Shirley Dean who opposed the resolution and, along with the head of Berkeley's Chamber of Commerce, said to the press that "this resolution would lead to boycotts of Berkeley" and enumerated the forms such boycotting could take. Practically inviting the boycotts in order to take political advantage of the situation [at Berkeley's economic expense].

speaking of which, it was very bright of Shirley Dean to appear on 'The O'Reilly Factor' on right wing Fox News and talk about how embarrassed she was, and how some people might boycott the city, and thereby she pretty much started the boycott by implanting this idea into people's heads nationwide. I was at the city council meeting. She and her allies on the council were sharply bickering and sending jibes over at Kriss Worthington and Donna Spring. They don't get along at all. Kriss Worthington scored points by proposing a 2nd resolution expressing sympathy with the victims, and Dean and Armstrong and Olds wouldn't vote for it because he proposed it, and so they came out against sympathy for the families. Donna Spring apparently was on the O'Reilly factor too at a different time, but she wasn't rhetorically prepared. She was talking like a normal person and so she kind of lost in the soundbite environment of TV.

I'm sure the boycotting corporations are REALLY scared about losing the business of Berkeley. LOL!

This is precious:

"Kriss Worthington scored points by proposing a 2nd resolution expressing sympathy with the victims"

I.E.- "STOP THE WAR, WE'RE SUCH BAD PEOPLE AND WE DESERVED IT!!! Oh yeah, and <grumble whine grumble> New York <grumble snicker> regret..."

May all of you enjoy living in the economic ruin that you so richly deserve

- only users lose drugs, just say mo'

I.E.- "STOP THE WAR, WE'RE SUCH BAD PEOPLE AND WE DESERVED IT!!! Oh yeah, and New York
regret..."

We vote for our elected representatives. They send our military to the gulf. Our military lays seige to Iraq, causing 1.5 million civilian deaths from lack of food and medicine. We then ignore this.

"We" as a nation did deserve it, because "we" as a nation started it.

American imperialism is not just a crackpot liberal phrase. It's a sad and frightening fact.

And who is responsible for 1.5 million Iraqis dead? SADAM HUSSEIN you moron, not the US. You don't even know the meaning of the word imperialism. According to the dictionary it means "The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition." I don't know about you but I can't think of any territory that we have taken over from another country in the 20th century. You people who try to justify the cowardy, horrible despicable deaths of over 5,000 men, women and children are losers. There is and has been no morally equivalent action undertaken by the US. You people would just like to bury your head in the sand and hope these people don't do it again. Well you are wrong. They want nothing less than the total elimination of our freedoms and our country so the can impose their anti-women, anti-nearly everything philosphy on the world. They must be destroyed now!

Siege to Iraq? Wasn't aware of that one. I DO however know of UN (not a typo, that's UN not US) sanctions against Iraq that are in place due to their leader's non-compliance with a resolution in which he agreed to allow UN inspectors into his country to look for and destroy weapons of mass destruction (he tends to use them on his own people, you see)

OK, let's assume that it's a violation of their national sovereignty, and they're justified in throwing these UN inspectors out: Even with the UN sanctions in place, Iraq is an OIL RICH country (a fact that is proven in that Iraq has almost totally rebuilt it's military to it's pre-Kuwait invasion size. Those tanks, airplanes and artillery pieces are expensive little toys).

Saddam chooses to re-arm his nation rather than feed his people - how is that OUR fault? The UN sanctions would be lifted the day after he said, "OK, the inspectors can come back in and do their work without our interference..." Instead he is using this as a pretext for anti-America bashing in the Arab World (and apparently some people here...)

We're far from perfect, but I refuse to be the end-all, be-all for every disenfranchised people on this planet...

there are many of us who live in other
cities who will be glad to join our
brothers and sisters in Berkeley in
boycotting any company that boycotts
Berkeley!
An injury to one is an injury to
all!
Don't feel alone--you have millions
of brothers and sisters across the
country.
One day we will all be free!
U.S. out of Afghanistan, Asia, Africa,
Latin America, Europe, North America,
the North and South Pole and off the
Planet!

This news about the boycott on the Berkely City Council is a really orrible thing. But imperialism and so capitalism are this. Unfortunately US government is the worst and bigger dictature in the world under the mask of "democracy".They speak about freedom and justice...yes the ones to bombing, killing and put in misery the eighty percent of the world acting with their friends in Europe and Asia. The economic powers need these goverments to give a new order to the world and live forever over the skin of the people. And the goverments do their job very well. You are really couragious people and I hope you can win your struggle that is in a different way the same of everybody. The men in Washington are the new nazis, they got no black clothes nor they speak about races, but they are much more nazis than the old ones. Good people in USA got the great choice to save the world from the madness and the final solution together with the people of the other continents. Washington is the only real terrorism.
We shall be together.
----------------------------An anti-imperialist human being

It is true Talibans do horrible things. It is also true Sadam Husein isn't a good example for kids. But that doesn't mean US is actig well.

At least two are needed to battle. And I don't think one is good and the other bad. Probably both deserve a little of what they got.

US it's been acting arrownd the world only for it's own interest not careing of what it is creating.

Who trained Bin Laden?

Who puted Sadam Hussein in the goverment?

I think US gets what it gives. That doesn't mean it deserves it. Nobody deserves to die, even the worse. Maybe that is what we should learn: VIOLENCE, WAR are never the answer

Sorry for my english I am not native speaker

Hi, this is the resolution voted by the Berkely City Council. I personally think it's quite honest and express a very positive and humanitarian point of view, instead of the language of revenge.

Inigo.

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These are the actions that the Council passed by a 5-4 vote:

1) condemn the mass murder of thousands of people on September 11, 2001, and express our profound grief at the atrocities last month that killed thousands of innocent people in New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania, and acknowledge, honor, and support the heroic rescue efforts on the part of dedicated police and fire departments, and the city, state, and federal governments; and



2) ask our representatives to help break the cycle of violence, bringing the bombing to a conclusion as soon as possible, avoiding actions that can endanger of the lives of innocent people in Afghanistan, and minimizing the risk to American military personnel; and



3) urge our representatives to concentrate all available resources on bringing to justice all of those who were complicit in last month’s violent attack, and work with international organizations toward the same end; and



4) urge our representatives to devote our government’s best efforts in collaboration with governments throughout the world, to addressing and overcoming those conditions such as poverty, malnutrition, disease, oppression, and subjugation that tend to drive some people to acts of terrorism; and



5) request that we engage in a national campaign to lessen our dependence on oil from the Middle East and to commit to a nation-wide conversion to renewable energy sources such as solar and fuel cells, within five years.

"...having not even read the resolution passed by City of Berkeley..."

Wow, that's funny, because I sure do REMEMBER reading it. And all the other resolutions passed that day. And finding out what specific members stated during the debate. And calling Mayor Dean's office for clarification. And exchanging emails with Hawley before making my decision to boycott, to have my company boycott and to ask friends and associates to boycott too.

Strange how one's memory can trick you, huh?

But since you say I didn't then I guess I must not have. After all who knows better what I did, or how I think (or for that matter what my thoughts should be) - you or me?

See we're not all mind-dead robots just because we happen to be in favor of the boycott. We're not marching lockstep behind some mythical leader who tells us what to think and do. Some of us actually are capable of independent thought and critical analysis. I know, it's hard to believe that someone who disagrees with your opinion on this could actually be a thinking caring individual, but it's true.

We are deeply worried Americans who are angered that these elected officials (I hesitate to use the word "leaders") had the gall to tell the Federal government what to do. And that 4 members didn't have the courage to say No and then claim they were "against the resolution."

Want a specific example? Okay here's one "...avoiding actions that can endanger the lives of innocent people in Afghanistan..." Wow, I'm glad they said this because you know otherwise the U.S. military was just going to go fly planes into skyscrapers full of non-combatants. Oh no wait a minute...was that OUR plan or the terrorist MURDERERS plan? You have to help me, my memory is so faulty these days, why I even think I've read resolutions when I haven't.

Did they have the right to pass this resolutoin? Of course they did, unlike under the world envisioned by the terrorist murderers. Just as I have the right to disagree. Ad be angry. And to turn my anger into a non-violent action that I hope can effect social change. As Berkeley itself has taught us so well.

I am not misguided. I am not hateful. I am pro free speech (unlike the Taliban). I am pro kite flying and chess (again unlike the Taliban).

Most importantly I am against depriving people of their most basic civil right - the right to be alive. I am using the tools at my disposal - my mouth and my wallet.

Thank you.

The Nazi bankers the Swiss? The Soviets set up the Bath party by the way, and it was a socilist one at that. When Saddam is pulled from power their will be danceing in the streets in Iraq.I heard this from Iraqis. Berkeley is place that pratonizes convected cop killers like Mumia and does'nt have a clue about the real world.

I will start doing business with Berkeley again.. as soon as they vote to send Shirly Dean as well as Barbara Lee off on an extended fact finding mission.... preferably in the middle east... ummm dressed in Burkas, and sporting an atttiude :-)