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More Berkeley rally photos

by paranoia
I couldn't resist the ironic pleasure of surveilling the surveillers.
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A great rally today on Berkeley campus. As has already been reported, the College Republicans and friends came to disrupt, but were outnumbered in the thousands by anti-war marchers.

More disturbing (or perhaps I'm naive) was the rather overt efforts of uniformed police to photograph and take video of the demonstration.

I couldn't resist the ironic pleasure of surveilling the surveillers.
by Cal Democrat
There were as many, if not more, Cal Democrats there as the Republicans. Our president, Anka Lee, helped organize it. The fact of the matter is, you're losing your friends with your extremism. Get ready fuckers.
by anonymous
wow. big surprise. democrats and republicans supporting the same thing. you are both irrelevant. make way for the revolutionaries, fuckers.
by student
The Democrats and Republicans thirsting for a bloody revenge are the extremists. Stop being taken in by crazy calls for retaliation. Stop and try to think clearly, seek alternative forms of information. The extremists are the ones calling for war that will result in countless losses of more civilian lives; the extremists are the ones supporting our government while it calls for a crackdown on the liberties in this country that the political leadership, at the same time, ironically says have been attacked by terrorists who don't care about freedom.
by chp
I was there. That rally was so great. Some rallies for other subjects on Sproul haven't been nearly as motivating as this. All the speakers were just great. The nationalistic group of 50 kept us focused, and all they could think of shouting was 'USA, USA' over June Jordan's talk- even though they're 'brilliant' cal Students they couldn't come up with a better line.
Anyway, what I think is really important to realize is we *are* the majority. I bet 75% of campus supports the basic idea we were expressing 1. no racism 2. We don't support the idea of bombing afghanistan - but rather getting Osama bin Laden and the group of people around him and having a trial, and perhaps some of the horrible taleban people who the US has been sending funds to up until 4 months ago 3. global inegalitarianism is bad
I am almost sure that a majority or almost a majority of US citizens support this too. The statistics they report about 85% of people supporting retaliation are very misleading because no specific plan of action is being proposed for that question. I know very well that regular working class americans do not support the idea of losing more than 200 soldiers, or bombing the shit out of starving people in afghanistan. People with flags on their cars mostly aren't jingoistic nationalistic nuts either. It's just a symbol that they care. I sent a copy of Ben Carrasco's stupid letter to the Daily Cal where he was criticizing people at a memorial service on Tuesday to a friend of mine in the army and he completely deconstructed it and made fun of him. I should post the text of his letter here.
Anyway - one thing I was worried about yesterday after the rally was that I was several newsracks which were completely empty - which is not the normal state for Daily Cal Racks. one had a sign 'hate hurts' on it, and I strongly got the idea that some BAMN type people (who did compose a lot of the leaders) had stolen the paper again like they used to do. This is such a bad idea. It would be horrible if they started doing this again.
by anon
>>There were as many, if not more, Cal Democrats there as the Republicans. Our president, Anka Lee, helped organize it. The fact of the matter is, you're losing your friends with your extremism.<<

Extremist flag-waving cretins of any country or stripe like you never *were* my friends. Get over your self-important, america can do anything to anybody attitude. Oh, and by the way, before you go pointing more fingers, go look up who funded the taliban. use your education for something more useful than lining your pocketbook.

>>Get ready fuckers.<<

I am ready for erosion of our civil liberties, and for massive bloodshed of innocent people (which by the way, is a violation of international law). In fact, it's happened before in this country, and if you research the politics of the people who you mistakenly think are your friends, you'll find out that they are anything but -- they would gladly take away your civil liberties as well the moment that you fall on the "wrong" side of their policies. But it's really easy to point fingers when you have a war-mongering university administration to back you up, now isn't it?
by Ready as Ever
Sentiments like " Get ready Fuckers" really doesnt get your message across, in fact it sounds offensive, and quite frankly, anti-productive and not too appealing to my fragile senses. I mean you all are so agro....really ass kickin. Why you could almost be mistaken for brash ass kickin Americans. You people scare me. So what if we sent money to the Taliban, should we be surprised? And now were going to kick there asses. What a shocker. Ohhh nooo, Im so worried for them, and there Afghan civilians. Please California rich hippies listen here. I live in New York and you know nothing except what you see on TV and tell each other over a soy latte after you read a page from a Noam Chomsky book......shut the fuck up. We dont give a fuck. True Americans doent give a fuck. we all cant be as sheltered as you, literally. What should we be getting ready for Fuckers? your mother? Maybe 75-80% of americans would support that. Its ok, Watch the ass kickin on tv, then jump back on the War effort just like in '91. Well, we'll try to get ready for you fuckers too.
by Osama yor Mama
Oh yeah ... mister New York chimin in with all the anti-california stereotypes and calling those who oppose Bush's dirty oil war "sheltered." ... Well, since you are so hard-core and down and all that - maybe it's time for you to go to Chile, or Guatamala, or El Salvador ... or any ****in where and see how sheltered you have been from the tortures, rape and terror that your tax-dollars have sponsored - you little white dough-boy ... you are the sheltered one ... but, that is coming to an end.
by anon
so, you're saying that you're going to go to Afghanistan and fight, then. Right?

anon
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