UC Berkeley Students Protest for Palestinian Liberation

It is gratifying to see that not all North Americans have been blinded by the jaundiced US policy that has always favored the Israelis. All North Americans must accept the responsibility for their government, as the world's largest arms dealer and unconditional Israeli weapons donator, for the use which this brutal regime of Sharon makes of those weapons. The US has no right to condemn terrorism because the greatest act of terror ever committed by humanity was the nuclear bombing of innocent Japanese civivlians. Wherever the US seeks to "protect its interests" subterfuge, terror and death are sure to follow. Do not be surprised that the world hates you so. Your TV commentators banter daily about the need to "take out" or "eliminate" or simply kill whoever happens to be your public enemy at the time. What kind of morality is that and how can you possibly convince yourselves of your own moral superiority when you live as you do in the most violent country in the world? Your military solutions through the barrel of a gun or tank, is exactly the solution of every criminal, hoodlum and freak on your streets daily as you shoot it out with each other at home. Please do not preach to the rest of the world about decency and law and respect and then aid and abet thugs and regimes the world over, wherever you can make a couple of bucks in the process. Practise human rights if you are at all capable of doing it. In Europe we are not impressed with Bush and his war on terror. Anyone that believes that you can eliminate terrorism through terror and military means is simply an idiot. Terrorism and terrorists are not the problem, they are simply the symptoms of the unjustice and greed in the lands wjhere they manifest themselves.Give the Palestinians their land, their security ,their human rights and then Hamas and Islamic Jihad and the Hizbullah will no longer need to exist. And by the way let's not forget that the state of Israeli was built on terror and the bomb and the bullet as they blasted the old British dinosaurs out of Palestine in the forties. The israelis have more blood on their hands than the Palestinians ever will.
Apply the old "McCarthy Vietnam bodybag" principle to this current Middle East war and the numbers show exactly who's doing the most mayhem. The Israelis kill 5 palestinians for every Israeli killed by the Palestinians. Maybe I'm missing something here but to us in Europe that means that the Netanyahous and Baraks and Sharons are the real butchers as they shoot journalists ,ambulances, bulldoze homes and villages and then they ask whay the world hates them.
Only you Americans for now can stop the Israelis, your tax dollars are financing this Israel terror.

It is gratifying to see that not all North Americans have been blinded by the jaundiced US policy that has always favored the Israelis. All North Americans must accept the responsibility for their government, as the world's largest arms dealer and unconditional Israeli weapons donator, for the use which this brutal regime of Sharon makes of those weapons. The US has no right to condemn terrorism because the greatest act of terror ever committed by humanity was the nuclear bombing of innocent Japanese civivlians. Wherever the US seeks to "protect its interests" subterfuge, terror and death are sure to follow. Do not be surprised that the world hates you so. Your TV commentators banter daily about the need to "take out" or "eliminate" or simply kill whoever happens to be your public enemy at the time. What kind of morality is that and how can you possibly convince yourselves of your own moral superiority when you live as you do in the most violent country in the world? Your military solutions through the barrel of a gun or tank, is exactly the solution of every criminal, hoodlum and freak on your streets daily as you shoot it out with each other at home. Please do not preach to the rest of the world about decency and law and respect and then aid and abet thugs and regimes the world over, wherever you can make a couple of bucks in the process. Practise human rights if you are at all capable of doing it. In Europe we are not impressed with Bush and his war on terror. Anyone that believes that you can eliminate terrorism through terror and military means is simply an idiot. Terrorism and terrorists are not the problem, they are simply the symptoms of the unjustice and greed in the lands wjhere they manifest themselves.Give the Palestinians their land, their security ,their human rights and then Hamas and Islamic Jihad and the Hizbullah will no longer need to exist. And by the way let's not forget that the state of Israeli was built on terror and the bomb and the bullet as they blasted the old British dinosaurs out of Palestine in the forties. The israelis have more blood on their hands than the Palestinians ever will.
Apply the old "McCarthy Vietnam bodybag" principle to this current Middle East war and the numbers show exactly who's doing the most mayhem. The Israelis kill 5 palestinians for every Israeli killed by the Palestinians. Maybe I'm missing something here but to us in Europe that means that the Netanyahous and Baraks and Sharons are the real butchers as they shoot journalists ,ambulances, bulldoze homes and villages and then they ask whay the world hates them.
Only you Americans for now can stop the Israelis, your tax dollars are financing this Israel terror.

It is gratifying to see that not all North Americans have been blinded by the jaundiced US policy that has always favored the Israelis. All North Americans must accept the responsibility for their government, as the world's largest arms dealer and unconditional Israeli weapons donator, for the use which this brutal regime of Sharon makes of those weapons. The US has no right to condemn terrorism because the greatest act of terror ever committed by humanity was the nuclear bombing of innocent Japanese civivlians. Wherever the US seeks to "protect its interests" subterfuge, terror and death are sure to follow. Do not be surprised that the world hates you so. Your TV commentators banter daily about the need to "take out" or "eliminate" or simply kill whoever happens to be your public enemy at the time. What kind of morality is that and how can you possibly convince yourselves of your own moral superiority when you live as you do in the most violent country in the world? Your military solutions through the barrel of a gun or tank, is exactly the solution of every criminal, hoodlum and freak on your streets daily as you shoot it out with each other at home. Please do not preach to the rest of the world about decency and law and respect and then aid and abet thugs and regimes the world over, wherever you can make a couple of bucks in the process. Practise human rights if you are at all capable of doing it. In Europe we are not impressed with Bush and his war on terror. Anyone that believes that you can eliminate terrorism through terror and military means is simply an idiot. Terrorism and terrorists are not the problem, they are simply the symptoms of the unjustice and greed in the lands wjhere they manifest themselves.Give the Palestinians their land, their security ,their human rights and then Hamas and Islamic Jihad and the Hizbullah will no longer need to exist. And by the way let's not forget that the state of Israeli was built on terror and the bomb and the bullet as they blasted the old British dinosaurs out of Palestine in the forties. The israelis have more blood on their hands than the Palestinians ever will.
Apply the old "McCarthy Vietnam bodybag" principle to this current Middle East war and the numbers show exactly who's doing the most mayhem. The Israelis kill 5 palestinians for every Israeli killed by the Palestinians. Maybe I'm missing something here but to us in Europe that means that the Netanyahous and Baraks and Sharons are the real butchers as they shoot journalists ,ambulances, bulldoze homes and villages and then they ask whay the world hates them.
Only you Americans for now can stop the Israelis, your tax dollars are financing this Israel terror.

It is gratifying to see that not all North Americans have been blinded by the jaundiced US policy that has always favored the Israelis. All North Americans must accept the responsibility for their government, as the world's largest arms dealer and unconditional Israeli weapons donator, for the use which this brutal regime of Sharon makes of those weapons. The US has no right to condemn terrorism because the greatest act of terror ever committed by humanity was the nuclear bombing of innocent Japanese civivlians. Wherever the US seeks to "protect its interests" subterfuge, terror and death are sure to follow. Do not be surprised that the world hates you so. Your TV commentators banter daily about the need to "take out" or "eliminate" or simply kill whoever happens to be your public enemy at the time. What kind of morality is that and how can you possibly convince yourselves of your own moral superiority when you live as you do in the most violent country in the world? Your military solutions through the barrel of a gun or tank, is exactly the solution of every criminal, hoodlum and freak on your streets daily as you shoot it out with each other at home. Please do not preach to the rest of the world about decency and law and respect and then aid and abet thugs and regimes the world over, wherever you can make a couple of bucks in the process. Practise human rights if you are at all capable of doing it. In Europe we are not impressed with Bush and his war on terror. Anyone that believes that you can eliminate terrorism through terror and military means is simply an idiot. Terrorism and terrorists are not the problem, they are simply the symptoms of the unjustice and greed in the lands wjhere they manifest themselves.Give the Palestinians their land, their security ,their human rights and then Hamas and Islamic Jihad and the Hizbullah will no longer need to exist. And by the way let's not forget that the state of Israeli was built on terror and the bomb and the bullet as they blasted the old British dinosaurs out of Palestine in the forties. The israelis have more blood on their hands than the Palestinians ever will.
Apply the old "McCarthy Vietnam bodybag" principle to this current Middle East war and the numbers show exactly who's doing the most mayhem. The Israelis kill 5 palestinians for every Israeli killed by the Palestinians. Maybe I'm missing something here but to us in Europe that means that the Netanyahous and Baraks and Sharons are the real butchers as they shoot journalists ,ambulances, bulldoze homes and villages and then they ask whay the world hates them.
Only you Americans for now can stop the Israelis, your tax dollars are financing this Israel terror.

Such a rally should be taken months ago right after the 911 tragedy. UC Berkley is among the few who can speak out loud against such injustice. It's the unilateral stance of Bush administration lead to the adventuring Sharon to take such a bold stroke at Palestinian. US media was not palying their role properly during the last six months. I was in US right after the 911 during my biz trip. When I watching the TV, it's such a surprise to notice there's no one speak for the Palestinian people. And none of any Jewish American feel guilty about the way Israel people treating their neighbors. According to the UN resolution, Palestinian people has their own right to have their own country just like Israel. How can uncle Sam keep on providing arms to the brutal occupation force at the west bank ? What's the difference between Sharon and Hitler ? It's time for the Jewish Americans to think about their indiscriminate support to the Israel government. The media should also stand tall to revoke their patronage over the Israel and advocate a long term peaceful solution in the midle east.

Don't cry too loud, OK. Last time I looked, the threat of US military might was the only thing keeping you and the citizens on your island from all wearing the same grey clothing, riding bicycles, and memorizing and carrying around a little red book. What's better, Taiwan as it is now, or Taiwan under the rule of communist China? You need to decide.

"What's the difference between Sharon and Hitler?"

Hitler killed Jews. Sharon is a Jew.

A better question: The difference between Arafat and Hitler?

Hitler killed Jews. Arafat is killing Jews. There's your parallel.

18 Jews killed as Jews not Israelis in Tunisia

Assaults on Jews and their synagogues and schoolchildren's busses throughout France reminiscent of pogroms in the 40s.

Masses running through the streets of Calgary chanting "Death to Jews"

Jewish Women getting assaulted for wearing a star of David, and a Hassidic Man assaulted on the streets of Berlin for being Jewish

A Pogrom on the streets of Kiev in the Ukraine

Assaults and vandalism against Jews in Berkeley.

When is enough enough -- Seems like all some people can do is criticize Israel's "violations of human rights" but Jewish lives and well being is very cheap in some people's estimation.

STOP THE VIOLENCE STOP THE HATE == THE REAL FORMULA FOR PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE

Get over it, Zionist. Sikhs got their heads blown off for being "Arabs" after Sept. 11. Black men are systematically murdered every day in the streets. How many tears are we supposed to cry for your Holocaust? Can we cry no tears for our own?

Many people -- not just those deserving Israelis -- will die on both sides in this war. That's why it's so ugly, and many of us actually want it to stop. As long as you are butchering Palestinians, I will expect to open the papers and read that your children, too, have lived their last days.

Clear enough?

Those in glass houses should not cast the first stone. I
You are becoming the evil you despise.

Not all Jews even support Israel so how dare you say that you expect to pick up the paper and see about dead Jews. You should be ashamed! That is hatemongering and you know it.


If you want to talk about atrocities, talk about the Holocaust Survivor and 20 others blown up observing the Holiday of Pesach, talk about the firebombing of the Synagogue in Tunisia. You should be ashamed. I grieve the loss of innocent life on all sides -- why don't you?

A reading of DD's posts reveals DD's one and only tactic for discussion.
DD brands anyone who does not share DD's views as a hatemonger and anti-semite. DD reads words in posts that are not written.

The site of dead Jews does not make me happy, though I somewhat "enjoy" reading about dead Israelis. There is a difference between the two, says DD. So let me make it clear: I do not cry for the deaths of the militarized Israeli warmonger nazis. They wanna fight the natives for their land, well that's gonna cost some casualties.

Let us cheer our Palestinian brothers and sisters in their unyielding struggle for victory against the European oppressor. Let us have one, two, many Palestines. Israeli lies and massacres will not stop justice from arriving to the Holy Land.

>DD brands anyone who does not share DD's views as a hatemonger and anti-semite.

This is called "changing the subject."

To learn more about logic, click here:

http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/toc.htm

People make all sorts of stereotyping remarks, say that Jews around the world deserve to be targets for hate crimes and feel sorry about who they are and be denied the right to commemorate their heritage in peace. I call a spade a spade and I'm accused of changing the subject.

Well if you addressed my concerns and showed enlightenment and tolerance we could get on to the fact that Arafat never has abided by the arms agreements at Oslo. He contravened them almost from day 1 according to a US military expert in an article on Slate. If there wasn't all these suicide bombings of innocent Israelis at Passover seders and of children at pizzerias and discos and ice cream parlors, maybe we could get to ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING OSLO. But then again, Arafat has no intention of doing that because he's so used to being a terrorist he either doesn't know how to or doesn't want to be a statesman. Defend that.

>Arafat never has abided by the arms agreements at Oslo.

Would you, if had been you? Oslo offered Bantustans. Would you live in a Bantustan?

If you wanted a country you have to start somewhere.
A small state is better than no-state. If the Palestinians had formed a country when they had a chance in the partition deals they could be a lot better off than they are with a functioning economy, stable society and peaceably coexisting with its neighbor Israel.

A little history. The Palestinians rejected a majority of the land in the Peel Plan, they rejected a smaller state in 48 because they hated the Jews in Israel so much they decided they'd rather go to war with them than live with them. Haj Amin cast his lot with Hitler and genocide against the Jews and later urging his people to drive the Jews into the sea.

Actions have consequences. Because the Palestinians didn't take the best deal they could get and decided to threaten the very existence of their prospective neighbors, they have to deal with the fact that the only land they are likely to get is the West Bank, Gaza and Arab East Jerusalem. Peace, a functioning economy and hope for the future is better than violence adnauseum IMHO.

Nah, it's better to die free... or to die having taken out a few of the pharaoh's children.

The Palistinian and Israelis issue can be simply stated. The Israelis desperately want peace and the Palistinians desperately want the Israelis gone. Just read the Platistinian National Chater Dated July 17, 1978. Click on the url listed.

The Palistinian and Israelis issue can be simply stated. The Israelis desperately want peace and the Palistinians desperately want the Israelis gone. Just read the Platistinian National Chater Dated July 17, 1978. Click on the url listed.

The Palistinian and Israelis issue can be simply stated. The Israelis desperately want peace and the Palistinians desperately want the Israelis gone. Just read the Platistinian National Chater Dated July 17, 1978. Click on the url listed.

The Palistinian and Israelis issue can be simply stated. The Israelis desperately want peace and the Palistinians desperately want the Israelis gone. Just read the Platistinian National Chater Dated July 17, 1978. Click on the url listed.

The Palistinian and Israelis issue can be simply stated. The Israelis desperately want peace and the Palistinians desperately want the Israelis gone. Just read the Platistinian National Chater Dated July 17, 1978. Click on the url listed.

The Palistinian and Israelis issue can be simply stated. The Israelis desperately want peace and the Palistinians desperately want the Israelis gone. Just read the Platistinian National Chater Dated July 17, 1978. Click on the url listed.

You got it backwards. The Palestinians want peace and co-existence with equal rights with Israelis but the Israelis will have none of this -- they want the Palestinians out and would never send their kids to the same school. The Israelis are the racists here, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians want a single state where they'd live side by side with the Israelis as neighbors, but Israelis are racist and speak of a "demographic problem" sort of like white racists who can't stand living with people of other races. Israelis are no different from white separatists or white supremacists -- only their image in the US is different.

The Charter you posted a link to is dated quite clearly at the top and bottom of the page as being from 1968, not 1978. This is a very long time ago, going on 40 years old now. That's more than a generation ago. In terms of current relevance it has a value of nil. Please refrain from dredging up ancient documents to justify your position. If you really want to get into ancient documents, Israel has some pretty embarrassing ones of its own. I refrain from mentioning these because they do not have any proven current relevance. Neither does yours and if you seek to be honest in the future you will find porpaganda that is more current.

Isreal, in Hitler's Rezim, they're like garbage. Germany throw them from thier country. But with the help of Palestine, Israel familys can have good life in the land of Palestine. but time pases, Israel want more than donated land. They took away what's Palestine's. they took Palestine's land. they're just like perasites. unbenefit!!!!! Now, what they give to Palestine? Not more like animal treatment. They Turn Mosque's in Yerusslaem into staple, or even turn it into a bordile house. They don't respect other's religion. Now, america, The Super Power Country, with lots of Inteligent people there, in the side of Israel people, that not more than a parasites. Remember USA, Israel is a smart coutry. One day they'll trated you too.