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Closing in on Iraq's Saddam Hussein

by Geoffrey Kemp, Nitze School of Advanced Inter
This article is based on the report of an independent roundtable sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations co-authored with Mortin H. Halperin. Sections of this report were incorporated in testimony by the author before the House International Relations Committee on October 4, 2001.

Geoffrey Kemp is a professorial lecturer in the Middle East Studies Program and director of Regional Strategic Programs at the Nixon Center.
If the United States and its new allies are successful in eliminating the Osama bin Laden network from Afghanistan, and if a government comes to power in Kabul that can bring some stability and humanity to the region, it would signal that we are serious about confronting those states that support terrorism. At that point, our ability to confront the remaining terrorist threats in the Middle East may be enhanced, though not assured. Whatever happens, the Bush administration will soon have to outline its policy toward Iraq.


The Saddam Hussein regime cannot be rehabilitated. It poses a growing danger to the Middle East and the United States. Therefore, the goal of regime replacement should remain a fundamental tenet of U.S. policy. The danger increases the longer Saddam Hussein has access to large amounts of hard currency, which enables him to continue to fund his security services and his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs.


The Clinton administration used limited force several times against the regime, climaxing with Operation Desert Fox in December 1998. The result was the permanent eviction of UNSCOM, the U.N. arms monitoring unit tasked with ridding Iraq of WMD. Enforcement of no-fly zones in the north and south of Iraq continues, with frequent U.S. and U.K. air strikes against Iraq anti-air facilities, but the real debate concerns the wisdom of a more massive military operation to try to change the regime in Baghdad. In considering such an option, we must recognize we will have few regional allies. Anti-Americanism in the Muslim world is intense and pervasive; its causes are complex and are to be found in more issues than the Arab- Israeli conflict. It's true that the Palestinian Intifada has magnified the problem, but even if an Israeli-Palestinian agreement existed, hatred toward America would still be present. Much of the anti-Americanism in the Arab world reflects the anger and rage of discontented populations against their own regimes.


Some have argued that anti-Americanism is one thing, but that if the United States shows new resolve and is prepared to do whatever it takes to end the regime in Baghdad, key Arab governments will support us, albeit reluctantly, since their interests ultimately lie with the West. But this proposition would need to be carefully tested before taking precipitous action. Certainly the hostility shown to the United States by citizens of one of our closest Arab friends, Egypt, could be a sober portent.


Few governments, including Arab governments, approve of the Saddam Hussein regime. However, they express concern that a new American military offensive that did not guarantee the final and definitive removal of Saddam Hussein and his cohorts and the parallel emergence of a stable, unified Iraq would create more problems than it would solve. Thus, if force is to be considered, the strategic objective must include a coherent policy for a post-Saddam Iraq. Removing Saddam alone might have some short-term benefits, but there are downsides. First, if only Saddam and his immediate entourage are ousted, the Baathist regime will remain in power and Saddam's likely successor (unless it is one of his sons) would likely be greeted with such relief by the international community that Iraq could soon get out from under the punitive sanctions that have limited Saddam's strategic ambitions. Yet there is no guarantee that any Saddam successor that comes from within the regime will be any less anti-American than Saddam or that he will disband Iraq's WMD programs or abandon the wish to rebuild Iraq's military conventional forces. Iraq has suffered great humiliation in the past 10 years; the desire for redemption and revenge is not restricted to Saddam Hussein.


The military choices facing the United States in the event of a decision to use major force are formidable. A strategic air offensive without the use of ground forces has well-known limitations. A ground offensive analogous to Desert Storm would take months to put in place, assuming we had access rights in the region. A more indirect strategy of subversion and guerilla warfare has no guarantee of success.


Aside from military operations, what else can we do to undermine the Iraqi regime? First, we should not abandon efforts to deny Saddam Hussein access to hard currency and arms. The existing sanctions regime which has been in place for over a decade is unraveling, and up until September 11 regional support for Saddam Hussein was growing. The revised sanctions policy-so-called "smart sanctions"-proposed by the administration deserves support. It focuses on four key issues:

preserving the U.N. "escrow" account and other measures directed against the regime's financial assets to prevent Saddam Hussein from obtaining additional revenues from increased commerce between Iraq and the outside world;
giving Iraqis more freedom to purchase civilian goods, thereby shifting responsibility to the regime for continued civilian suffering;
continuing an embargo on all conventional weapons transfers to Iraq; and
refining the list of prescribed dual-use technologies that can assist Saddam Hussein's efforts to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction.

These are realistic goals for which there is considerable international support. It can be argued that, with greater Russian cooperation on a number of issues, President Vladimir Putin may now be prepared to go along with the U.S. proposal to tighten the sanctions on Saddam Hussein. China and France have offered support for new sanctions that could set the stage for reducing Saddam's access to foreign currency.


At the same time, we will have to provide more aid to Jordan and to convince Turkey and Iran that their interests are served by working with a new U.N. Security Council resolution. If new sanctions were implemented, it would be difficult to ensure that goods and services that now are free to move to Iraq indeed reached the Iraqi people and were not pilfered by Saddam and his cohorts. Yet under these circumstances it would be less easy to criticize the sanctions as being against the Iraqi people. Saddam would be clearly accountable for their suffering, not the United Nations.


The issue of enhanced support for Iraqi opposition forces outside Iraq arouses great controversy, both within the U.S. government and among our allies. Many military analysts do not expect that Iraqi opposition forces could anytime soon provide the basis for a military challenge to Saddam Hussein. However, Iraqi opposition groups could and should be encouraged to remain active in the political arena and the propaganda war against Saddam's regime. Incremental support for the opposition can be pursued, with additional support contingent upon progress in political delegitimization efforts and opposition successes in the field. We should make efforts to broaden the appeal of the opposition among the various Iraqi clans, both Sunni and Shiite, though we do need to find more specific groups we can effectively work with. Lethal assistance could be considered, based on future political progress. Under present circumstances, it would take a major political investment by the United States to make support for opposition groups more credible in the region.


A parallel effort must be made in the intelligence arena to seek ways to infiltrate and undermine the Saddam Hussein regime from without and from within. Deception and dirty tricks should be refined and implemented. No one doubts the difficulties of these types of operations, but clearly the most likely danger to Saddam himself is an uprising within his own Sunni organizations. Given the intensity of his security, this is a long shot, but one that should be pursued.


Saddam Hussein is likely to behave egregiously at some point in the future. The United States, therefore, needs to make sure that regional allies understand American redlines and that we understand the limits of their support for future U.S. military action. Redlines remain an important element of our policy. Three redlines are most likely to continue to receive active Arab and Turkish support, as distinct from acquiescence:

Iraqi military threats or attacks on allied forces,
Iraqi threats or attacks on neighboring states and
Iraqi acquisition and deployment of weapons of mass destruction or their use, including nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.

Redlines less likely to solicit active support include Iraqi aggression against the Northern Kurdish enclave and Iraq's military support for Palestinians against Israel. There remains considerable room for ambiguity on these issues. For instance, most regional powers accept the U.S. and U.K. right to defend aircraft patrolling in the no-fly zone by attacking Iraq's anti-air capability. However, they are unlikely to support major retaliatory action against other Iraqi military and civilian targets.


The United States must be more assertive and aggressive in its public diplomacy. It should outline its hopes for Iraq and its people and state that they will be well treated and respected once the Saddam Hussein regime has gone. The United States has been losing the propaganda war, and it should be a priority to retain the high ground on the matter of who is most responsible for the suffering of the Iraqi people. The United States should lead international efforts to indict leading regime figures, limit their foreign travel and freeze their external bank accounts. Those who wish to profit from supporting the present regime should be placed in the position of having to defend it in light of its track record.


Our most effective short-run strategy toward Iraq should be to keep Baghdad guessing as to what we are going to do. There is circumstantial evidence that since September 11 the governments cozying up to Saddam and the dozens of companies seeking lucrative business deals have had second thoughts, not wanting to be seen acting against American interests or to be caught in the crossfire of military confrontation. If countries such as Turkey reassess their present favorable relations with Iraq, others might follow if they believe the United States is serious about an eventual regime change. This could reverse the favorable momentum Saddam has been exploiting for the past year and could make it more difficult for Baghdad to reassert its presence in the region.


In the days ahead, the United States will have to walk a fine line between developing a more robust diplomacy while seeking regional support in preparing for a military response at some time in the future.
by Mohammed
Saddam Hussien is the best thing that ever happened to the muslime and Araic Countries. The Gulf War was an American set up to destroy Iraq. America could not stand to have an Arabic country this powerful because it would cause a threat the zionist country of Israel. Saddam was right in attacking Kuwait because I know the true facts. Also Saddam will free Palestine from the Jordan River to the sea from the zionist and NAZI occupation of Israel to the people of Palestine.
God Bless Saddam
by Nawab
He roughly thrusts his stiff long thick dark
Spear
Into my mouth
Pinning me to the mat

I
A lovely young lad
The sacrificial virgin lamb
Spreadeagle helplessly on the altar
Being devoured by the tall masculine sensual
God

The candle flames flicker
Casting his monstrous shadow on the wall
The throbbing sound of jungle
Drums
Drifts in from somewhere far away

His brutal face stares down sternly at
Me
Magnificent moustache gleams in the dark

His powerful husky hairy sweaty greasy body
Heavy buttocks
Forcefully drive the elongated spear deep down my throat

My mouth agape
Bleeding
Stretching to the ultra limit
Eyes bulging with excruciating pain

Oh, how I long to hold the fearsome tyrant in my arms
Caress his heavenly body
And whisper tender loving words into his ear -
So close and yet...

As the drumbeat quickens
His massive spear sizzles with
Heat

Hard fast violently it
Rams
Into my youthful tender brain

Saddam shaking trembling moaning groaning growling roaring
Ecstatically!

My vanquished soul enters Heaven
In utter
Bliss.


by Linker
You don't have to be a revolutionary to support an end to the 11-year Iraq war.

Voices in the Wilderness
http://www.nonviolence.org/vitw/

Institute for Policy Studies
http://www.ips-dc.org/projects/newinternat.htm

Friends Committee on National Legislation
http://www.fcnl.org/issues/int/iraindx.htm

American Friends Service Committee
http://www.afsc.org/intl/mideast/iraq.htm
askaboutiraq [at] afsc.org

Fellowship of Reconciliation
http://www.forusa.org/Programs/Iraq/default.html

UNICEF
http://www.unicef.org/iraq/

The World Health Organization
http://www.who.int/disasters/country.cfm?countryID=28&DocTypeID=2&archive=no

Food and Agriculture Organization
http://www.fao.org/News/2000/000904-e.htm
http://www.fao.org/WAICENT/OIS/PRESS_NE/PRESSENG/2000/pren0049.htm

Robert Jensen
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/iraqfactsheets.htm

Denis Halliday
http://www.commondreams.org/views/070700-103.htm
http://www.cnn.com/COMMUNITY/transcripts/2001/01/16/halliday/
http://www.accuracy.org/halliday.htm

Women's International League for Peace and Freedom
http://www.wilpf.org/meast/iraqun.htm

Global Policy Forum
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/irqindx2.htm

Amnesty International
http://web.amnesty.org/802568F7005C4453/0/F45F0A32B18614E380256900006932BF?Open&Highlight=2,Iraq

Christian Aid
http://www.christian-aid.org.uk/indepth/0000iraq/iraq.htm

War Resisters League
http://www.warresisters.org/
http://www.warresisters.org/demos.htm

Global Exchange
http://www.globalexchange.org/getInvolved/iraq032801.html

International Action Center
http://www.iacenter.org

Iraqi Forum for Democracy
http://www.iraqifd.org/
by Bill
I was born in America and served in the US military during Viet Nam. No, I didn't volunteer I was kidnapped by this dirt filthy government.

Because governments are powerful it is almost impossible for one person to cause enough trouble for them to get even so I support any nation that can get back at the American Government.

It isn't as if Viet Nam and that former government was bad and now we have a good government. This government has become worse and will continue on that path if it isn't stopped.

I might not be any big player in the take down of this American Government but I will settle for even a small part even just encouraging foreign governments who have suffered under the foreign policy of America.

Don't forget that many Americans suffer also within America under the rule of this filthy government. I hope Saddam kicks ass and that the other Arab nations wake up and support him in an all out war to completely and totally destroy Israel and then move on internally to Washington.

One day I would love to be standing on the shores of America waving to an invading force and pointing the way to Washington for the ultimate victory and the total and complete extermination of the politicians of this nation.

Death to the American Government.
by blah
Bill,

I am writing on behalf of Mr. Saddam Hussein, supreme leader of the Iraqui Islamic Republic, to extend an offer of citizenship to you.

Mr. Hussein would be very pleased to meet you. To become an Iraqi citizen, our only requirement is that you allow your likeness to be used for anti-western propaganda, so that we, the Iraqi government, can continue to deceive our citizenry and progressive movements around the world.

Of course, if you are a Kurd, you will be summarily executed upon arrival. The method will vary by case, though most are happily suffocated by chemical agents.

Further, if you choose to dissent with Mr. Hussein, you will be proptly beheaded and used for a football at the next government-sponsored rally.

Again, thank you for your continuing support, and we hope to see you in Baghdad soon.

Sincerely,

The Iraqi Government
by whats sup
read the first line
by kj$
the vioetnam vet. said some pretty crazy things.....HE MUST REALLY BE PISSED.......BUT BE CAERFUL....
by Indigo
Yeah, our government does some very awful things. I'm the last to defend them. But we're supposed to be living in a democracy. The people are supposed to be the 'watchdogs' of the government. Unfortunately so many citizens are content to sit in their suburban housing development and believe whatever the government feeds them. So instead of wishing for a foreign invasion (in which case they aren't going to let you join their side, Bill. They'll laugh in your face before they mow you down), wish for more people in our country to become informed and speak out. Wish for our government to actually listen to protesters. Only then can America be what it's intended to be. A government by, of, and for the people.
by FILTHY
so which is more dangerous to the world in all matters Iraq or the U.S.? hmmm thats a hard one which regime oppresses more people?, which regime has more people executed? which regime has more people imprisoned? which regime has more people killed in foreign countries? which regime has spent more money funding terrorist organizations? which regime sets up puppet governments reminiscent of the eastern block? which regime has more destructive power than the rest of the world combined? which regime? which regime has used weapons of mass destruction? which regime has researched and used biological weapons since 1945? which regime tested these weapons on their own citizens without their knowing through implementation using city water systems? which regime conducted the philadelphia experiments in which the relation between mass electron gravity and the space-time continuum was tested in 1945 with resulting consequences still pending? which regime? which regime gave refuge to nazi and japanese scientists following wwII so that it could use the research collected on human subjects? which regime was removed from the UN human rights council even prior to guantanamo? which regime gave more funding to the taliban prior to sept 11? which regime, despite normal procedure, did not scramble its air force to stop hijacked planes from taking down even greater civilian targets? which regime causes more starvation throughout the world by means of "economic sanctions" which kill civilians and do nothing of what they are said to do? which regime monitors their own citizens by chips in ID cards from satellites in space so they can be tracked and apprehended in case of political dissidence? which regime steals oil in colombia in the name of the drug war? which regime is trying to rule the world and expand its empire? ANSWER TO ALL THESE IS AMERICA of course. so dont go lookin for the spec of dust in our foreign neighbors eye when we got logs destroying our vision at home right eh?
by Dekka.com re: Nepal Maoism
Nepal Loses Ground against Maoist Rebels
DEBKAfile Special Report
26 February: The tiny Himalayan kingdom of Nepal, the world’s backpackers’ paradise, is being squeezed to death in the crossfire of big power and domestic conflicts. International airlines shun Kathmandu since India-Pakistan tensions over Kashmir loomed - on top of a vicious Maoist rebellion that has claimed 342 lives in the last nine days alone.
On February 17, the Nepal government renewed the state of emergency after rebels killed 137 soldiers and policemen at Kailkot, 400 west of the capital. In the same district, soldiers killed 76 rebels in a massive weekend strike. Since the mid-nineties, the insurgency aiming at creating a communist state in place of the monarchy has killed more than 3000, mostly police and government personnel.
For the moment, the Maoists control 33 of 72 Nepalese districts, with full control over four, providing the local population with administration, health, economic aid and education.
DEBKAfile’s Asian experts report that the danger of the unrest in Nepal spilling over into neighboring countries is imminent; so too is its potentially detrimental affect on the US-led war on terror.
More than half of Nepal’s population of more than 22 million, with a Hindu majority and about 3 percent Moslems, lives in third world poverty.
The insurgents are gaining ground by a combination of tactics. Targeting officialdom, banks and American companies, their methods of operation recall both Islamic radical expansionists today and North Vietnam in the seventies - linking education with militancy, driving government troops from remote areas before moving in on population centers and meting out cruel punishment – mutilations of bodies, beheading prisoner and burning the faces of fallen soldiers.
The Nepalese police is poorly equipped and more vulnerable than the army, which is famous for its legendary Ghurka fighters. But both are desperately in need of training and weapons upgrading.
The two rival regional powers, China and India, are of one mind in fearing the collapse of the Nepalese ruling system and its replacement by a radical communist Maoist regime. The rebel movement’s destabilizing influence is already reaching into Bhutan, Bangladesh and China. However, the Nepalese government wants aid from sources other than India and China.
This year, both the United States - alarmed by the effect of the Nepal civil war on its war against terror - and Britain, have promised support. The Russian government too has condemned the Maoist revolt and offered the Nepalese government badly needed help.
The army has a number of special units with mountain artillery and an armored car company. Most of its equipment is of French, German, US, Indian and Chinese manufacture. Nepal wants to replace it with American or British hardware.
The Nepalese air force has a small helicopter unit, a number of short-take-off and landing planes and transporters. Its shopping list runs to more American or British armor, helicopters, including assault helicopters and light counter-insurgency aircraft.
The police, including volunteers and militia, has about 28,000 men equipped with outdated 303 Lee Enfield pre WWI rifles and Sten sub-machine guns. It also lacks vehicles and communications systems.
The so-called “Maoists” are in fact a heterogeneous assortment of groups, influenced by the outdated theories of Mao Tse Dung and Indian communists. They are divided into two main branches – the Communist Marxist Party of Nepal – UPN-MX, and the Communist Marxist-Leninist Party of Nepal – CMLPN. According to American and Nepalese intelligence, there are at least 17 more communist factions in Nepal. Since the late eighties, they have been forming into ad hoc unions, which maintain ties with Maoists in India, especially in the states of Bihar and Utar Pradesh, to topple the Nepalese
government.
Part of this coalition are the Maoist Popular Front-Samyuktha Mukti Bahini- SMB and the Jan Morcha-JM, which draw support in weapons and war materials from the criminal organizations in India and Bangladesh known as “tags”. But the most dangerous group at the head of the rebellion is the Communist-Marxist Party/Maoist – CPN/M, which is headed by Pushpa Kamal Dahaln, nicknamed The Fierce One.
The Nepalese government has not yet reached the point of appealing for outside intervention, but it is already fighting the advancing Maoists with its back to the wall.
by Bennie
In my opinion I think that if we help Iraq and not so much worry about what Saddam Hussein is going to do next then we might be able to side with him and his country. Then his country will know that it was he who was hurting his own people and not the United States.
by Dania (daniaman18 [at] hotmail.com)
To whomever it may concern,
I'm writing to inform the world of the horrors which the government of the United States has blinded you with.
It is with great concern that you put an end to the harsh treatment and the torchering of the iraqi people. I, although have not lived in Iraq, can see clearly the vast number of population going down due to the severe number of children and humans dying due to many reasons and one of which is the uranium bombs and radium bombs which were dropped on Iraq in the gulf war in 1992. Although many american citizens do not understand this, I believe it is my duty to explain the truth to the rest of the world. For the iraqi people have already witnessed everything and understand whats it's like to have children dying everyday and more children being born retarted. Not forgetting the cancer risks increasing thanks to U.S.A. I'd just like to leave a message in the american and western minds. While you are upside down with this whole september 11th issue, i'd like you to take the time to think of the Iraqis which have been affected by these radioactive materials for 10 years AND will CONTINUE to suffer for many more. My cousin once told me, they were sitting in a restaurant eating, while a rocket passed over their heads. This wouldn't be everyday life in America now would it? Medicine cannot even be inported to help iraqis,they're living in hell at the moment. The United States of America continue to cheat the people and not provide all the evidence and truth. When a problem arises, we Iraqis think about the whole situation and question logic and question ourselves. Even when we find out who was wrong, we do NOT creat chaos in the streets and make their lives a living hell. But as you can see the situation at the moment in America where there is NO PROOF, but propaganda and speeches and so on which lead the american people to believe things without question and then to harm innocent people of other religions. WHY? Is it because Islam is the worlds fastest spreading religion? Again after many inncidents, America continues to blame my country, although there is NO PROOF. Should i remind you all of the Oklahoma city bombing, when you blamed it on "Islamic terrorists". So who did it turn out to be?
Or the anthorax problem, again blaming it on arabs or Islam. So, again i wonder, who was it?
I have another big complaint. How DARE you come and try to turn our religion into something that it's not, taking videos of half naked women to Afghanistan and turning facts around saying, "Oh look how afghanis now have freedon, they're happy watching videos"
No!!! They would be happy watching ISLAMIC videos, not something against our religion. You constantly critisize the way our religion holds respect to the women. They cover their hair and their bodies because it is HARAM to walk around like a whore. We do not do this, so i don't know why you broadcast from afghanistan telling the world that the women wish they didn't have to wear so much, they want to be free and to wear what they want. Stop with this propaganda and turning this all around for we all know how our religion is. You make yourselves look like your the good guys, and the Taliban and arabs like the bad guys, but for one thing, i'm sure Islam wont go down because it is STRONG and will stay strong forever..
Thank you , as i feel everyone should read this and clearly understand the facts around the universe. Although i'm sure that if it's Americans geting this, it wont be shown
Anyways, i'ved explained everything although i have alot more.
Loyal Iraqi british 15 year old girl.
by brigg
Are you a pure 15?
by jan net
Why is it that the women are always the ones being controlled --
-- they have to wear 'special' clothes so not to look like 'whores' as if clothes make the whore.
-- they are the one's traditionally 'chosen' in arranged marriages and n child marriages (show me a 12 year boy marrying a 35 year old women!)
-- they are whipped if they are raped.

Are islamic women less then men?

Does my not wearing a scarf make me 'half naked' as you put it?

I feel sorry for you. 15 and brainwashed into submission.

I am not as equal as I want to be in US but I know this and I am acting on it.

by anon
When nuns cover themselves, it's considered a sign of holiness, of devoutness and modesty.
by ....
Hey anon,
where did you get that weird analogy?
When was the last time the west forced women into a nunnery and even more significant - males (monks, etc.) also wore/wear special clothes so there is no distinction of one sex having to wear something differant.

Do you really think women are treated equally under islamic law? what planet have you been living on? Haven't you read anything about the rights of women in Iran, old afganistan, saudi arabia, etc, etc? Its facists like you who think its OK for women to be forced into haram that... well, you figure it out. you're nto even worth writing more.

Nuns... give me a fucking break
by StThomas
You are either not Catholic or flunked CCD.
The veil on nuns IS a sign of submission. Submission to God. Its a hold over from the MIDDLE AGES.

With the coming of the modern age, most nuns have stopped wearing it except as a 'uniform'.

On another subject, don't you think it even a little sad and maybe a bit warpped that a 15 year old has been taught to consider a women without a veil 'half naked'? At the very least I would call that unhealthy.

by anon
My point is that there is a certain interpretation in the West that if a Muslim women is wearing a veil she MUST be oppressed. What if she chooses to do so? As a sign, perhaps, of submission to God? In some secular Muslim countries, such as Turkey, some Muslim women are oppressed by the state and individuals and harassed for trying to wear a veil.

I say, let people wear what they want. If Dania wishes to walk around Britain (or here) with a veil, I say right on.

Notice how jan net and others dispute her criticism of how we "constantly critisize the way [her] religion holds respect to the women." But much more importantly, Dania talked about how she is Iraqi and knows about the horrible situation in Iraq caused by American and British bombs.
by jan net
"Notice how jan net and others dispute her criticism of how we "constantly critisize the way [her] religion holds respect to the women." But much more importantly, Dania talked about how she is Iraqi and knows about the horrible situation in Iraq caused by American and British bombs."

Anon, I think you are wrong. (1) The bombing is temporary. Bad but temporary. It will end as we work towards it. The oppression of women is constant and has lasted for longer than any war.
(2) why are you incapable of gasping multiple issues? Are you so single or small minded that you can only see one evil at a time? The vast majority of women's groups are pacificist in leaning as well as pro-freedom. Why is it so hard for you?

In an atmosphere of pressure that the islamic world pushes on women behavior, can they really have free choice. Are you so naive that you believe a girl who has been brought up to believe that a women without a veil is half naked - and, in agreement with Nessie, that half-nakedness is evil - is capable of freely deciding to wear or not to wear a veil?

Do you have any idea of how many girls are killed each year attempting to leave forced marriages? And how many men are? Well, no surprise that I can't find records of a single man killed for escaping an arranged marriage but hundreds of young (probably even younger than a sexist like you dream of) girls are.

Get some political maturity.


by farzad
you are truely an idiot for defending saddam.
idiot!
by Jan net
I apology Nessie, what I wrote came out wrong. I ment to say I agreed that nakedness is not necessarily evil in any case.
by Mike
I cannot believe that you harbor such resentment against your own country. To welcome an invading force is nothing short of treason and standing, waving on the shore as the invading force enters would make you a suitable target for such a force and hopefully you would be the first to die.
by Spider Dude
Funny, the name "Diana" does not sound very Islamic to me.If she is an Iraqi then she would have discussed Saddams massacures on the Shiite and Kurdish populations.She would know it is Saddams evil that started this mess.Iraq is run in the fashon of Stalins,free speech and the truth are repressed.The Iraqi people are praying for us to liberate them.So are Iranians also.To hear the truth cheak out
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http://www.Iraqfoundation.org
http://www.Iraqtourture.com
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