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Dancing Israelis Spies at Site of 9/11

by Media Watcher
How many times have you heard some people justify their support of Israel over Palestinians because of that footage of dubious authenticity, of Palestinians celebrating in the streets about 9/11? That footage was shown over and over for a reason: the Zionist-run media was doing its part to continue on its campaign to villify all Palestinians in order to justify all the billions of US tax dollars that our government continues to give to Israel.
First of all, many people claim that the footage was not at all what it seemed. Many people claim that it was footage from some other celebration that was taken and used intentionally to mislead Americans into thinking that the group of Palestinians were celebrating the US's tragedy of 9/11.

To tell you the truth, I can understand why some Palestinians might have celebrated 9/11, not that it's right, but it's understandable due to the FACT that the US has been massively providing weapons, funding and backing to Israel, even when it comes to UN Resolutions that call for an end to the Israeli Occupation! The US has fully enabled and continues to fully enable Israel to persecute thePalestinian people collectively in every way, killing and maiming thousands and denying them equal human rights in their own homeland.

But why has the media not made a big deal about the Israeli spies who were dancing and whooping it up and celebrating the 9/11 WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING?

It was mentioned briefly on Fox News, and that was the end of that. It was not mentioned again except on the internet, as far as I know.

The FBI rounded up these suspicious celebrants who turned out to indeed be Isareli spies, and they were detained for months, before finally being released. Yet there has been no followup story in the mainstream media. However there are now reports coming out that some of these very Israeli spies had lived next door to the 9/11 terrorist pilots!

Curiously the media has chosen to sweep that story under the rug, but when it comes to that footage of Palestinian celebrants, now that got lots of coverage. The pro-Israel bias of our mainstream media is so obvious that it's getting to the point that everyone is noticing.

Think about this. Who had more to gain from the 9/11 attacks, the Palestinians or the Israelis? Of course, the Israelis did, because their dream is to try to unify all Americans totally against Muslims and to try to make it seem the Israelis "war on terrorism" is the same as the Americans' "war on terrorism", which it seems to have succeeded in doing. Sharon and Netanyahy were both pleased to hear the news about 9/11 because of this and even candidly said so!!!

Yet Americans would not even have had to deal with the tragedy of 9/11 if it weren't for Israel, which has been persecuting the Palestinians since day one of it's creation in 1948. This anger against Israel's aggression and persecution against the Palestinians, the indigenous people of Israel-Palestine is indeed what unites the Muslim world and even motivates some to take revenge, as in " terrorism" from a Western point of view, but "resistiance" and "fighting for freedom" from the Eastern point of view.

And Europe, America and it's offshoot Israel HAVE INDEED been guilty of taking advantage of the Arab world for its own selfish reasons: Zionists for their dream of a Jewish Supremacist land, and others for oil. In short, Israel is trying to succeed in getting America, to not only fund Israel, but to fight the entire world on behalf of Israel, beginning with the Arab world. America never had a problem with the Middle East UNTIL Israel came into existance. This is not just a coincidence.

We must all be completely vigilantly aware of how our news is manipulated and censored to support the Zionist agenda in particular, but also the oilmen as well. And we should protest it and write our own books and news, just like what Indymedia is for.

by spy-swatter
I just checked out the article and posts about the 9-11 hijackers. Very interesting stuff. Check it out if you get a chance.

After reading it, along with having read about the Israeli bombing of the USS Liberty which killed 34 Americans and wounded 129 more,and it was all hushed up for a long time (http://www.ussliberty.com) and how Israel tried to make it seem as if the Egyptians did it; and after reading about The Lavon Affair (do a google-search on this for details) again, where Israeli spies were found to be real culprits behind the bombing of American cinemas in Egypt, once again trying to make it look like the Egyptians did it; I have come to this conclusion about 9/11:

The Israeli Mossad spies, with their sophisticated electronic and telecommunication software and equipment which they totally specialize in specifically for spying purposes, as well as other purposes, closely monitored the Arab terrorists who flew into the WTC on 9/11. Many of these Israeli spies lived on the same street as the Arab terrorists, and probably even pretended to be part of the Al-Queda network. After all, Israeli Jews of Arab background are often used in this kind of Israeli espionage operation.

At any rate, I surmise that the Israeli spies knew exactly when 9/11 was going to happen, when, where and how, but did not share the information with the FBI or the CIA because of Israel's desire to get Americans fired up against the Muslims and thus fight Israel's enemies for Israel, and to try to continue to support the notion that Israel's continued ethnic cleansing and oppression of the Palestinian people is justified and that Americans should continue to pay for this war. Remember, America had not problems with the Muslim world UNTIL Israel came into existance in 1948.

Anyone who is truly American and has Americans' best interests at heart would call out for our government to end its relationship with Israel, a racist, anti-democratic, apartheid country, until it is completely transformed into a secular democracy with equal rights for all, including all 5.5 million Palestinian refugees who have the right to return to their ancestral homeland Palestine-Israel, according to UN Resolutions, International Law and world opinion.
by Juan
I did a research project recently on the media [American media to be exact] in relation to what has been going on, ie. terrorism, etc. What I found interesting was that while studying the pictures that various newspapers used, the New York Times used a photo of a supposed Palestinian celebration on 9/12/01. What was particularly strange about the picture was that there was one person among the crowd that had a sports jacket on. It was too blurry or hazy to see what exactly it was but it seemed recognizable because of the checkered pattern that it had [similar to the yellow cabs checkered design]. Also strange in the photo was the fact that there was a flag that was waving that was without a doubt NOT the Palestinian flag. Even in a black and white photo, the Palestinian flag is recognizable because it has four colors, similar in design to Cuba's flag [an equilateral triangle with three broad stripes]. The flag in the photo was a solid color with a small picture on it in one of its corners. The color could not have been white either. The third strange 'coicidence' of the photo was the fact that not all of the people photographed were celebrating but rather just looking on. In fact, the majority of the people were merely onlookers.
by margaret
And how about when the Israelis blew up the refugee ship, the "Patria", which was filled with Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe? It's hard to see what they'd stop at.

And why would such people just watch and wait till someone else maybe did the deed for them, when Mossad is perfectly capable of running a false flag operation, using local talent to back them up?

And what a coincidence that Israel just happens to have the US government packed with likeminded warmongers at this time. When you think of the massive coordination of government negligence (at the very least) that was necessary to pull this off, the Israelis have it all over the Arabs in terms of pulling the puppet strings.

Which brings us to their little phone-tapping project, which almost certainly dropped some juicy blackmailable data in their laps, in case they encountered any resistance. "By way of deception thou shalt do war." (Mossad motto)

Not that I'm absolving the CIA--it wouldn't surprise me if they're in there too.
by ..............
Does anyone give a shit that these guys got arrested for doing nothing more than taking some pictures in a public area and being in an excited state at the scene of 911?
by WhizWart
Lets say Mossad did do it.....they really haven't gotten anything they would want would they? Yeah, theres a war, but it isn't in palistien, its in Afghanistan!!! Not a big help other then cutting off some funding.
by .............
It may have been Mossad, it may not, it's something none of us will ever know.
But we do know these guys got arrested under some seriously questionable pretenses.
Maybe the public should be allowed to see their film. Was there something interesting on it?
I understand they were arrested for "puzzling behaviour", is this a crime?
If they were spies, shouldn't they be tailed for awhile instead of just busted on the spot?
by Hasbara Goy

""It looked like they're hooked in with this...

Joy & Mockery

5 Israelis detained for `puzzling behavior' after WTC tragedy
Five Israelis who had worked for a moving company based in New Jersey are being held in U.S. prisons for what the Federal Bureau of Investigation has described as "puzzling behavior" following the terror attack on the World Trade Center in New York last Tuesday.[...] They are said to have had been caught videotaping the disaster and shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery.Ha'Aretz, September 17, 2001

Five Men Detained As Suspected Conspirators
Eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts. The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday.

However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. "There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted," the source said. "It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park."

Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said. Bergen Record, September 12, 2001 (copy)

The White Van
Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." ABC June 21, 2002

Spies, or students?
Were the Israelis just trying to sell their paintings, or agents in a massive espionage ring? Ha'Aretz, May 14, 2002

Suspicious Activities Involving Israeli Art Students at DEA Facilities
Drug Enforcement Administration Office of Security, June, 2001
In January, 2001, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Office of Security Programs (IS), began to receive reports of Israeli art students attempting to penetrate several DEA Field Offices in the continental United States. Additionally, there have been reports of Israeli art students visiting the homes of numerous DEA employees. These incidents have occurred since at least the beginning of 2000, and have continued to the present DEA

Spy Rumors Fly on Gusts of Truth
Americans Probing Reports of Israeli Espionage

Despite angry denials by Israel and its American supporters, reports that Israel was conducting spying activities in the United States may have a grain of truth, the Forward has learned.[...]

According to one former high-ranking American intelligence official, who asked not to be named, the FBI came to the conclusion at the end of its investigation that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September (Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Omer Marmari and Yaron Shmuel) were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front.[...]

In addition to their strange behavior and their Middle Eastern looks, the suspicions were compounded when a box cutter and $4,000 in cash were found in the van. Moreover, one man carried two passports and another had fresh pictures of the men standing with the smoldering wreckage of the World Trade Center in the background.[...]

On December 7, a New Jersey judge ruled that the state could seize the goods remaining inside the warehouse. The state also has a lawsuit pending against Urban Moving Systems and its owner, Dominik Otto Suter, an Israeli citizen. The FBI questioned Mr. Suter once. However, he left the country afterward and went back to Israel before further questioning. Mr. Suter declined through his lawyer to be interviewed for this article.[...] Charlene Eban, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Washington, and Don Nelson, a Justice Department spokesman, said they had no knowledge of an Israeli spying operation.

"If we found evidence of unauthorized intelligence operations, that would be classified material," added Jim Margolin, a spokesman for the FBI in New York. Forward, February, 2002

Dominik Suter of Mossad on an FBI Suspect List (large pdf)
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