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Briefing with Ari Fleischer - Israel to engage in targeted killings in the US ?

by repost
Gee, Ari can't seem to find the answers to much these days
Ari & I
White House Press Briefing with Ari Fleischer Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 12:30 PM
by Russell Mokhiber

Mokhiber: Ari, UPI reported last week that Prime Minister Sharon of Israel has given the green light to Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, to engage in targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries. The report says that Mossad has in the past engaged in assassinations in Belgium, Norway, and other European countries, but never in the United States. Is the administration aware of this new Israeli policy and has the administration agreed to it?

Ari Fleischer: That's the first I've heard of it, so I have no comment to offer on it.

Mokhiber: Could we get comment from you?

Ari Fleischer: I'll see if there is something on it.

Mokhiber: You and the President have repeatedly said that Saddam Hussein gassed his own people. The biggest such attack was in Halabja in March 1988, where some 6,800 Kurds were killed. Last week, in an article in the International Herald Tribune, Joost Hiltermann writes that while it was Iraq that carried out the attack, the United States at the time, fully aware that it was Iraq, accused Iran. This was apparently part of the U.S. tilt toward Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war. The tilt included billions of dollars in loan guarantees. Sensing he had carte blanche, Saddam escalated his resort to gas warfare -- graduating to ever more lethal agents. So, you and the President have said that Saddam has repeatedly gassed his own people. Why do you leave out the part that the United States in effect gave Saddam the green light?

Ari Fleischer: Russell, I speak for President George W. Bush in the year 2003. If you have a question about statements that were purportedly made by the administration in 1988, you need to address those somewhere other than this White House. I can't speak for that. I don't know if it is accurate, inaccurate, but you have all the means to ask those questions yourself.

###

-Thanks to Russell Mokhiber

White House reporter Russell Mokhiber is the editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter. He co-authors the weekly Focus on the Corporation column with Robert Weissman which Common Dreams publishes.

by Justin Raimondo
repost by antiwar.com editor who was criticizing everyone on another news story:

Mossad assassinations on American soil? Say it ain't so….



I was working out in the gym the other day, when Richard Rodriguez, a friend of mine, came in, greeted me, and remarked: "I told some friends of mine about your book on the Israeli connection to 9/11, and do you know what they told me?"

"Uh. Nope."

"They said that you'd better watch your back."

I laughed. But Richard looked dead serious.

A couple of days later, I stumbled on a UPI story that made me think of Richard's comment in a new light: "Israel to kill on U.S., allies' soil."

Say, what?!

UPI intelligence correspondent Richard Sale reports:

"Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International….

"The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with UPI."

If the Israelis are now killing people on the soil of "friendly" countries, just think what they might do in enemy territory. To call this "a more aggressive approach" is putting it mildly. What it amounts to is a declared strategy of international terrorism as an instrument of Israeli foreign policy. It is, in effect, a declaration of war on the whole world. So what is the response of U.S. law enforcement agencies to this threat to commit mayhem on U.S. soil? UPI reports:

"'Mossad is definitely being beefed up,' a U.S. government official said of the Israeli agency's budget increase. He declined to comment on Tel Aviv's geographic expansion of targeted killings.

"An FBI spokesman also declined to comment, saying: 'This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws.'"

So how about enforcing federal laws against murder? I suppose it's too much to expect the Keystone Kops of our FBI to protect us against any sort of terrorism, including the Israeli variety, given their record on this score. You would think that our politicians would at least make some pretense at protesting the declared intent of a foreign power to turn the U.S. into their happy hunting ground. But no dice:

"A congressional staff member with deep knowledge of intelligence matters said, 'I don't know on what basis we would be able to protest Israel's actions.' He referred to the recent killing of Qaed Salim Sinan al Harethi, a top al Qaida leader, in Yemen by a remotely controlled CIA drone.

"'That was done on the soil of a friendly ally,' the staffer said."

So because we targeted enemy terrorists in Yemen, Israel now has the right to target anyone it chooses in the U.S.? The logic of this syllogism is elusive, to say the least. If that anonymous staffer is at a loss to explain how we could possibly protest the killing of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil by agents of a foreign power, then perhaps his "deep knowledge of intelligence matters" is more than balanced by his sheer ignorance of other matters. Such as the primary responsibility of the U.S. government – which is to guard the integrity of its own borders, and protect its citizens from foreign invaders.

The UPI story, if true, is bone-chilling in its implications. Will we now have the Mossad rampaging through the U.S., eliminating the alleged enemies of Israel, with an increasingly nutty and desperate claque of Likudniks acting as judge, jury, and executioner? It's unthinkable – isn't it?

I'm not so sure. UPI cites a source in the Israeli government who claims

"In the past Israel has not staged targeted killings in friendly countries because 'no one wanted such operations on their territory.'

"This has become irrelevant, he said."

The denial of past instances of Israeli terror on "friendly" soil rings false. Surely the ghosts of Robert Maxwell, the British publishing magnate many suspect was offed by the Mossad, and Gerald Bull, the Ontario-born scientist and U.S. citizen who worked on Iraqi arms production and was killed in Belgium, are crying out in protest. There can be no doubt that "no one wanted such operations on their territory," but one has to wonder how and why this has suddenly become "irrelevant." Is it because these "friendly" countries are proving their friendship by agreeing to it – or because they have no way to prevent it?

The new thug-in-chief of the Mossad, Meir Dagan, nicknamed "the gun," seems ideally suited to implement this new policy of kill-at-will:

"Former Israel Defense Forces Lt. Col. Gal Luft, who served under Dagan, described him as an 'extremely creative individual – creative to the point of recklessness



cont'd http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j011703.html
by Bill
The Mossad better remember a few things when they start killing Americans. There are a lot of "good ole boys" with a lot of weapons in this country and a lot
of KKK members still out there if you see the responce to Trent Lott in the south.
the retaliations would be unbelieveable.Unfortunately a lot of innocent people could be hurt.
by drkfibr
i'd be careful of the bircher's....
by David Fowler
So, If it is acceptable for a group like the Mossad to kill those they see as politically dangerous to their cause, or perhaps likely to be dangerous to their people, then I expect it is acceptable for other mobs to kill the likes of Bush, Blair, Sharon and Howard. They most definitely are endangering the lives of the people of their own countries, as well as those from other places that have oil.
by Keelhaul
Violent Revolution

Time to burn it down and groove on the rubble folks. Our criminal gov has pushed us to the barricades, and it's time to push back. The Declaration Of Independence sez it all.

I know there are those who will claim I'm a government shill...although I DO work in the US Navy (E-6 tech puke) my first duty and oath was and is to the Constitution. And from where I'm sitting it looks like Bush & co. fall squarley into the "enemies domestic" clause of my re-enlistment oath.

It's time to clean house!

-CK
by ube
i wonder if the mossad would want to off the bush circle of scum. then they can fill the power vacuum
by Winston Smith (winston [at] feralnews.com)
See "Coming out for murder" http://feralnews.com/weblog/index.php?p=16 Time to time to demand an end to sayanim operating in western countries!
by Noton Urlife
What self-righteous twaddle. How many of your here
who are in high dudgeon about Israel's assassination
squads were as equally upset at American "covert"
actions where thousands died. Chile 1973 for example.

The Israelis are guilty of nothing that every other world
power isn't guilty of. The Israelis are just more honest
about it. Rather than paying locals to kill the target [For ex:
Diem's demise was sponsored by Kennedy. South Vietnam
was a friendly nation then] the Israelis do the job
themselves.

How many here were Soviet apologists when the
Soviet Union was assassinating with the KGB? When
its Gulag held 10s of millions?

Does this make the Mossad pretty or nice? No!
Maybe the Mossad is immoral!

But it is hardly a uniquely Jewish action.

And certainly it is not an action which can be
protested by any other powerful nation without
being hypocrites.

by King_Papa
My friends dad was an officer in one fo the "covert" units opperating in europe during the 70's and 80's. He worked all over western europe doing was what you ppl are bitching about.

"Oh, targeted killing is wrong and immoral!" oh well shit happens.

Is what what he did wrong, well it depends on how you look at it.

Did he murder ppl? YES, he did.

Did he save american lives and the lives of ppl in the countries that he opperated in? YES, he did.

He went after the "Progressive Elements" of the USSR, hes been shot, stabed and blown up. Ive seen the scares and looks like hes been attacked with a shot gun and a buzz saw, its a wonder ppl can look at him. But these ppl he went after made every intention to cause harm to the west for shere political means.

The ppl the mossad are after are the ones that want to cause harm to the west for purly religous reasons and that is much more dangerous, and I would be really supprised if the US didnt take a look at its "Targeted Killing" laws.

I wouldnt be suprised either if the United States put a stop to the mossad and unleashed "Criminals In Action" and "Nutt Suckers Anonymous." All thats going to happen is a "bad guy" body count is going to rise.

Will there be mistakes made along the way? Ofcourse there will be. But weather you want to believe it or not, in the end it just might keep you safe from the boogie man at night.
by killer of murderers
mossad -- defender of the west? how about hitmen for their gangster bosses.
by TA
"Did he murder ppl? YES, he did.

Did he save american lives"

(-) 1 + (+) 1 = 0

He accomplished nothing. Except of course the continuum of the cycle of violence.

Just like the right to lifers - army of god - who kills to stio killing. Like F***ing for viginity. You can say that in some parallel universe you're able to see how certain killings stops more of other killings, but really, the laws of physics are against you.
by James Rosewood
I am very much against any form of criticism of the mossad. Please dont do that people!
by Roger Garcia-Marenco
Well, well, all those killing are just the latest chapter of the thousand years old History " David VS Goliat". The smart, small resourcefull David killed the giant with a slinger thrown stone: the techology dooming the brute force. The world's most intelligent people, in average, are the Jews, they have proved it for along four thousand years, although, they have been living as outlaws for most of that time, looks like a paradox but. we must realize that that hard living has been the key for their present success. It is the same traith that makes urban people, living in crowded places and fighting for life every second, smarter, cynical, having no scruples and more resourcefull than country boys. That gives them a very sharp edge over 230 the millions of the foolish, greedy descendant from Caucasian - Europeans - country boys. May be, down the road, the injection of DNA from ancient races that built wonderfull cultures and civilizations from American Continent (Mayans, Chibchas and Incas), India and other Middle Eastern places, and East Asia will develoip a more aware people in USA and Canada to take over and erase the Jews' control of America for the sake of the Humanity and its final destiny: The stars..
by Roger Garcia-Marenco (rgarciam [at] rogers.com)
Would you say the same IF a pedofile or a grown up predator, who are all over doing what they use to do, have sex with your early teen aged children? You would be outraged, of course, looking how to kill the bastard, even IF your have been a predator, isn't it? In addition, my General, August Pinochet, did the right thing, he barted the life of a few thousand of renegades, looking for slavery and misery for 12 millions, in exchange for the freedom and prosperity of those millions of Chileans. It has been the best business Latin Americans have ever done. The Spanish looted more billions - 40 B. as far as 1700 -- in just gold and silver from America than Britons from India, and at least, India conserved its Identity which Native Americans can't say becase they were exterminated, holocausted, bioexterrminated - small pox and other plagues brought on purpose, in less than one hundred years; by 1600 there were left less than 10% of the original 100 plus millions all over American Continent.
by one of the editors
A comment by "Arcane" was removed because it was anti-Semitic. If you're going to bad mouth Jews on this site, you have to bad mouth specific Jews, not all Jews, and you’re going to have to bad mouth them, not for being Jews, but for doing something that would deserve being bad mouthed for no matter who did it.

If that's too complicated for your little pea brain to grasp, then just don't bad mouth Jews at all, any of them, period. Sit down, shut up and let the grownups talk.

Same goes for bad mouthing Arabs, Muslims, Jains, Finns, Fijians, French, and who or whatever.

Or else I, personally, will throw you out on your ear.

Capiesc'?
by Bill
Please provide the original source for this slander against Israel. I've searched the UPI and it doesn't exist. What exists are *copies* of the so-called article at various left-wing, arabic, or anti-semetic sites. The article itself only cites unnamed security experts, which could mean "Mr. T" or "McGyver". No credible evidence and certainly not anyone willing to put their name to it is provided.

Based on who is keeping this article alive, the lack of the original article, and the lack of named sources, I would say this is complete anti-Israeli non-sense.

by It already does:
Israel already engages in targeted killings in the US.
by bad mouthing jews
When you are saying not to bad mouth all jews - who do you refer too ?

Are you refering to jews as members of the jewsih religion ? or are you refering to all the members of the jewish nation ?

Why is is racism ?

Jews - as members of the jewish religion are from many ethnic backgrounds - some are white some are black On the other hands not all memebrs of the jewish nation are religious jews - in fact most memebrs of the jewish nation are secular.

So what are you defending exactly - please be specific ? We need to know what is and what is not allowed on this site.

Thank You !
by one of the editors
It doesn't matter how you define them. Some people say that if you have a Jewish mother, you are a Jew. Other people say if you practice Judaism, you are a Jew. I say, it doesn't matter.

If you say "the" Jews are this or "the" Jews are that, you are generalizing in an irrational manner that, depending on which definition you use, is either racism, or may as well be. It's like saying "the" Arabs or "the" Muslims, as if all Jews or all Arabs or all Muslims were the same.

If you want to bad mouth Judaism, or Islam, or any religion, go right ahead. Though religion does a great deal of good in this world, it also does a great deal more harm. So religion should be criticized. But you must distinguish between the religion and its adherents. Criticize dogma. Criticize cosmology. Criticize the social structure of the houses of worship. Even criticize the archetecture, if that’s what irks you. But don’t say “all <insert name> are <insert pejorative>”, because they are not.

Human beings are individuals. They deserve to be judged by their own actions, not by the actions of other people who claim the same lineage, speak the same language, carry the same passport, use the same name for deity, eat the same food, or wear the same distinctive headdress.

Also, keep in mind that if you are going to criticize another’s religion, solely on the basis of it not being your own religion, you are wasting your time, and needlessly alienating people who might otherwise be receptive to your ideas.
by Cora Key Rubidoux (corakey@MSN)
First of all, briefly I will tell you who I am. I am a Key, the Francis Scott Key family and from Leonardtown, Md., Tudor Hall was one of our childhood homes. My
family have been in the past leaders and have held
political office. My last two children are Rubidouxs, French name but Spanish. Louis Rubidoux settled
Riverside, CA and surrounding areas. According to
history, Mt. Rubidoux near Riverside was where the
first Easter Sunrise service was held in the West.
I also went to high school with Jewish kids, about
47% Jewish and had seen some of the originial films
of the things that went on during World War II. I have
very blue eyes as my father did. I was a Real Estate
Agent, fairly good looking, well traveled but a very
oridinary person and very pro USA even though I knew
there was some corruption in our Government, little
did I know how much. A Federal DEA Agent and his
wife rented from me as he was recently divorced and
still paying large amounts of support. He rented in
my home as I had a large house and he was gone a
good part of the time. At work I started to get attacked
by a co-worker quote "You think you are so vane",
"I would like to see the way you eat", Go with your own
kind, you are gay", "You are so Physic", "Go to the church of alternative living", "Take your daughter and
go to Mexico", "Can you read", etc. My two oldest
children are very educated, my third child got into
drugs at 16 and had been in and out of rehab etc.
but none of the rest of us were involved in anyway with
any drugs of any sort. Something hapened in 1994,
the verbal attacks turned ugly and I was threatened
to be murdered and the Federal Agent that lived with
our family turned ugly also. His wife opened her mouth in Mexico when we were on vacation that her
husband was a Federal Agent and her behavior to
the Mexican people was not nice, she was from South
America. Along with a trust fund from my uncle Dr.
Key, I suddenly got accused of drugs and or being an
informant, the trust account was a large amount of
money which I got very little of because there were many of us and 1/2 went to Charity anyway. But that
was just some of the things that went on. My son, who
I am sure was attacked ended up driving up to San
Miguel, CA to the Mission and all his ID was found in
the parking lot there and then driving down the road
very fast . He drove like this for about 100 miles before
stopped. When he was finally stopped in Santa Maria,
he was drugged by the police but he tried to tell the
police that his mother was going to be killed. Somethihng horrible had happened to him, he was
taken back to San Luis Obispo to jail, and it began.
He was given a few years but he had been drugged
and was not himself at all. Later sent to CMC, then
later to Atascadero Hospital because driving too fast
was a violent crime. He was put under mind control
and suddenly he was changed to Jewish and Jacob.
Suddenly, the Agent who lived with us went crazy and
yes, we had a large iron gate and we couldn't figure
out why the ping, ping, ping. Well, now I know, I was
very healthy, worked out and was in really good shape
and I ended up being drugged, ended up DOA in the
hospital with my heart, my tounge split and in shock.
Well, I called the DEA because I felt that the Agent that
lived with us was involved and they were for sure and
everyone knows that he was but cannot prove it. Well
I got grabbed out of my home and put into Santa Barbara Mental Health for 3 days as a Jane Doe and
suddenly I was not a Real Estate Agent, however,
my picture was in a Real Estate Book on the News
stand. Now, the Agent from the DEA at my home
started saying Jewish, Jewish, Jewish. The next thing
I knew, military bullets and very very large were put
in my garage and I also wrote a nasty letter to this
woman who attacked me at work.. Guess what happened, I was charged with terrorism, I thought this
was a thing conneted with planes. Now, I was beaten,
scarred, and held hostage for 8 years by courts and
put under mind control. They tried to chane me to
a Jewish person, a Mexican person and a low class
dumb person. Jewish, Jewish, Jewish was DEAs
cover because I knew too much. Oh yes, I had spirits
and was physic, I was not suppose to survive what
was done to me but I did. Horrible things were done
and said to me. Remember, I was good looking,
well breed, well traveled, in good shape and was
completely destroyed. I was told that I was going to
be broken emotionally, financially and in every way
they could think of and I was going to crawl in the
street and they did it, every single thing that was
promised to me. I was even asked by Coldwell Banker manaer in Camarillo where I worked for a
short time quote "Was it like Ann Frank's Diary" and
yes it happened 100%. I was told that the Government
wasnted me DEAD. I was told quote "Open your
mouth about what we did to you and we will lock you
up and kill you" Believe me, they meant it 100%.
NOW, YOU TELL ME WHICH GOVERNMENT TRIED
TO KILL THE FAMILY THAT WROTE OUR NATIONAL
SONG.

I can tell you all of who said what and who they were,
my own government for sure. I screamed at the FBI and believe it or not they actually told me quote "it's
not our problem, we don't handle that kind of thing"
They don't handle murder and terror, just what the
hell do they handle.

IS THIS TRUE, ALL OF IT and a lot of it was covered
up. But why Jewish, Jewish!!!!! Yes, there were Jewish people involved and some with some power,
this is true. Oh, I should mention, that these people
tried to change my ID. They wanted me to change my
name and go somewhere where noone knew me, boy
what a cover and what criminals. It was straight up
attempted murder and bragged about how no one
could out smart them and how they got away with what
they did to me. TRUE STORY from Cora Key Rubidoux
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