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How We Can End War: The Case For Socialism

by Scott Johnson
Sat., Oct. 27, 3pm
Women’s Building
3543 18th St.
(btwn Valencia & Guerrero)
It is clear the George W. Bush’s bombs will not end terrorism and will not improve the lives of the people of Afghanistan. Then what is the alternative? The answer to all of the problems thrown up since September 11 must address the suffering of millions of people around the world, the vast inequality of wealth , and the military industrial complex. The roots of all these problems lie in the capitalist system itself, which perpetuates inequality and competition between the ruling classes around the world. First, we must oppose any military intervention by our own government, as it will only be used to strengthen their economic and political status around the world. Second, we must look to a long term goal of building a new society based on human need and not profit. Come to this meeting of the International Socialist Organization to learn more about the socialist alternative to war, and how we can build a struggle to end all war by ending the system of inequality that produces it.

Sat., Oct. 27, 3pm
Women’s Building
3543 18th St.
(btwn Valencia & Guerrero)

Sponsored by the International Socialist Organization, publisher of Socialist Worker newspaper. For more info, call (415) 765-7670, or check out http://www.internationalsocialist.org.
by Escapee
Funny. Funny.
Socialism has killed more people than any other system.

Soviet socialism (1917 - 1990) approx. 23 million
Cambodian socialism (1969 - 1975) 3 to 4.5 million
German national socialism 9 to 9.5 million
African socialist and tribalist wars (1969 - 1999) 8 to 11 million
Cuban socialism (1962 - present) 2.5 million
South/Central American socialist dictatorships (1955 - present) 12.3 million
Chinese socialism (1949 - present) upwards of 23 million, numbers cannot be confirmed
North Korean socialism (1950 - present) more than 9.5 million

Your workers of the world are being murdered by socialist dictators because socialism demands war to spread its poison.
by Diego
"While Capitialism is an inequal distribution of life's blessings, socialism is a an equal distribution of its miseries."
by anarchist
Anarchists agree. Socialism is not good. In fact, one could describe capitalism as a form of controlled market (considering the Federal Reserve, IMF, etc), putting it more in line with socialism. Anarchism is a rejection of both, in favor of decentralized mutual aid systems.
by the burningman
Yeah, socialism is totally evil.

Fuck:
public schools
socialized medicine
anti-racism
the elimination of the rent system
third world decolonization
land communes
public ownership of industry
full reproductive freedom

Yeah - fuck Che and Ho Chi Minh. Fuck Jack Reed and Angela Davis and Huey Newton and the Young Lords and fuck those commies.

Fuck the Sandanistas and fuck Cuba, it's more of the same. It's just like El Salvador, except there are no death squads, or homeless or shantytowns or children begging in the street.

Fuck socialism. Fuck Russia for defeating Hitler when over 20 million of them died in the war. Fuck the Chinese communists for making China an independent nation. Fuck them. Fucking commies.

Fuck communists who are trying to figure out how capitalism works and how socialism can be built. They just want to be "bosses." That's why they join communist parties instead of going to business school and actually becoming bosses.

..............

No, wait a minute - Fuck you anarchist losers who are so afraid of actually making a change in the world that you confuse the victory of revolutions with their defeat.

While you embrace the "spirit of resistance" you forget that the goal is not "resistance" but "victory."

Best of luck eating your fried garbage. You shit-smelling, unhappy, stylistically challenged morons with no sense of history or reality.

Go sign up with Zerzan and blame mathematics and language for why you can't get a date.

Fuck you.

(How's that for reasonable discourse? Maybe if you juvenile fucks engaged in a half-way intelligent conversation I'd join you. Since you are content to replay the anti-communist garbage you were indocrinated with, I'll treat you like the lab monkeys you are.)
by Diego
"Maybe if you juvenile fucks engaged in a half-way intelligent conversation I'd join you."

Sorry I can't ascend to your lofty standards of sophistication. Writing things like "shit-smelling" and "Fuck you" ten times in a half page are beyond my meager, philistine capabilities. Maybe next time, if we try really really hard, we will be lucky enough to be graced with your articulate insights.
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