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Flashpoints Radio Oct 25

by Jaguar Johnny
KPFA Flashpoints Radio October 25, 2001:
-Robert Knight from NYC: NY journalist beaten because he 'looked like Osama bin Laden' (6 min)
-Israeli terrorizes more civilians in the West Bank; reports from Beit Jalla (10 min)
-Kathy Kelly, US Sanctions against Iraq still killing fields of children; details on her CA tour (13 min)
-Books Not Bars, Ella Baker Center: Super Jail dangers (11 min)
-Pacifica Watch: Ken Ford incites terrorism (9 min)
-Johnny Wishbone: anti-war rapper from Oakland
(link to audio in full story text below)
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<CENTER><A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net\"><FONT SIZE=5 COLOR=#ffcc00>FLASHPOINTS RADIO</FONT><Br>produced by Dennis Bernstein</CENTER>
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<FONT COLOR=#ffff99><STRONG>Thursday, Oct 25, 2001 - <A href=\"http://www.flashpoints.net/realaudio/fp20011025.ram\"><big>Start Audio</big></strong></strong> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/AudioSecrets.html\"><IMG SRC=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/images/a.gif\" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=25 WIDTH=52 ALT=\"for audio FAQ, click here\"></font><br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>00:00</font> <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle Hanrahan</FONT> w <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Robert Knight</FONT>.. news headlines.. Robert in New York City w Asian journalist, Heider Risbee (sp?) where Heider was attacked and beaten unconscious recently because he \"looked like Osama bin Laden\".. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Heider Risbee:</FONT> I went to buy cigarettes at 3AM.. between 14th and 15th streets, at FMF Grocery, 3 guys standing outside.. one looked at me, said, \'you look like Osama bin Laden, are you from Pakistan?\' \"Yes, I said\", then he started kicking and punching me, I fell down unconscious.. the cops came later, took me to the hospital.. he was white, hispanic, I\'m not sure.. I looked at 450 mugshots.. innocent people can land in jail through carelessly fingered mug shots, I know, I\'ve written press articles about it.. I couldn\'t really identify anyone.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle:</FONT> Why do you think you were attacked? <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Heider:</FONT> I have a short beard, brown skin.. the way the media portray us.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Robert:</FONT> you are an international reporter.. now with the <A HREF=\"http://www.eians.com/aboutus.html\"><I>Indo-Asian News Service</I>.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Heider:</FONT> Islamic fundamentalists beat me in mid asia, now I\'m being beaten over here.. Heider also with WBAI <I>Asia Pacific Forum</I>.. APF prevented previously from reporting hate crimes by Utrice Leid..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>07:00</font>
<A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><IMG SRC=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/images/dennis.jpg\" align=left hspace=4 BORDER=1 HEIGHT=88 WIDTH=66 ALT=\"Dennis Bernstein photo\"> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis Bernstein</FONT>: Israeli massacre in tiny <A HREF=\"http://www.geocities.com/beit_reema/\">Beit Rima (<A HREF=\"http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/israel/webcast/display.php3?article_id=9058\">map).. w Jowata Haraz (sp?) in occupied Palestine.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Jowata:</FONT> saw five bodies in the morgue, two grossly damaged courpses.. others with light wounds, not allowed to get medical assistance.. three ambulances sent, access denied by Israeli forces.. a doctor tried, could not get to the bodies for six hours.. those three men bled to death.. Israel sent in commando units, then burned homes, arrested 60, 10 reported dead of original 100 occupants..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>11:00</font> <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis</FONT>, now w Brian Wood, human shield, member of International Solidarity, living in <A HREF=\"http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/2001/09/04/FFXIUVF55RC.html\">Beit Jalla for last three months.. a member of Brian\'s Palestinian \'family\' killed by an Israeli sniper at the Church of the Nativity.. (see 10/23, 10/24 shows below).. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Brian:</FONT> I saw a body that had a bullet wound in the back of his head.. Israel commando units.. 10 people killed, perhaps more.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis:</FONT> are the tanks still in Beit Jalla? <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Brian:</FONT> they entered into Bethlehem with 20 tanks.. all the <A HREF=\"http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/2001/05/intifada/\">intifata resistance went to Bethlehem.. now til Saturday was tank placed in Beit Jalla.. tanks come through Beit Jalla to Bethlehem, usually don\'t stay.. <br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>15:00</font> now w <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Jowate:</FONT> (about the massacre).. I was just at an all woman\'s demonstration.. fired upon by Israeli tanks.. we were demonstating against the occupation.. as usual Israel reacts with violence.. <I>(Israel withdrew a couple hours ago, <A HREF=\"http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/israel/webcast/display.php3?article_id=9059\">Israel Indymedia report)</I><br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>17:00</font> <I>music break
</I><br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>17:46</font> <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle Hanrahan:</FONT> since the Gulf War 500,000 children have died in Iraq.. now U.S. bombing the utility grid in Afghanistan.. now w Kathy Kelly, of NGO <A HREF=\"http://vitw.org/\"><I>Voices in the Wilderness</I>.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Kathy Kelly:</FONT> Afghanistan likely to see the diseases that Iraq saw.. Electricity necessary to store medicine, food.. being forced back into darkness.. in New York, in Iraq, similar feelings.. the civilian victims of violence everywhere much the same.. about an Iraqi child that died for lack of medicine.. the mother said I hope this never happens to a mother in your country.. the terrorist attacks a crime against humanity.. bring them before an international court.. what to do about countries that invade neighboring states, support terrorism.. it takes a bit of maturity.. acknowledge we have.. created double standards.. created conditions where people can not care for their children.. a lack of honesty.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle:</FONT> the rhetoric of war?.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Kathy:</FONT> critical that we hear from the aid workers.. know what will happen in the winter coming.. to continue bombing at the point, an act of war incredibly callous.. about the free speech crisis, about Pacifica.. Kathy Kelly will be speaking at the Friends *Quakers* Meeting Hall on Sacramento Street in Berkeley, 7:30 pm Saturday, Oct 27.. for more info about Kathy Kelly\'s speaking tour in the bay area call 650-321-4464 or see <A HREF=\"http://peaceandjustice.org\">peaceandjustice.org <A HREF=\"http://endthesanctions.org\">endthesanctions.org

<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>30:00</font> Rachel Jackson, state field director.. of Books not Bars.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Rachel:</FONT> problem.. a reversal of one of the board of supervisor\'s votes.. Alameda Country already incarcerating juveniles at 2-3 times the national average.. now w Attorney <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Van Jones</FONT> of <A HREF=\"http://www.ellabakercenter.org/\"><I>Ella Baker Center for Human Rights</I>.. Van Jones: the wavering board member under great pressure from the law enforcement establishment.. the first time she voted her heart.. the next vote.. building a huge facility will ruin untold thousands of young lives.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Rachel:</FONT> the kids of Alameda County are on the auction block.. Wavering swing board member: Alice.. her phone number: 510-272-6693, please call her, beg her to vote for a scaled back jail.. for <I>Books Not Bars</I> call 510-433-9887
Also a Town hall meeting TONIGHT in opposition to the so-called \'super jail\', at 1357 5th Street Mandela Parkway behind the Bart Station
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>41:00</font>
Noelle w Pacifica Watch.. news.. now with Andrea Buffer of the <A HREF=\"http://PacificaCampaign.org\">Pacifica Campaign.. Ken Ford called disident board member terrorists, may have endangered KPFA.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Leslie:</FONT> I talked to Ken Ford.. he said his comments were taken totally out of context.. Leslie: reflects an approach not in line with Pacifica.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Andrea:</FONT> in a string of slanderous remarks by Ken Ford.. has not appreciation of civil liberties.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle:</FONT> Bessie Wash fired.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Leslie:</FONT> I\'m not unhappy.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Andrea:</FONT> we need to stay in touch with what\'s going on.. the Pacifica.net (?) website.. don\'t give any more money to Pacifica.. they have squandered listener contributions.. Ken Ford fax number: 202- .... his boss\'s fax number: 202 266 8349
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>50:00</font>
Noelle w Johnny Wishbone of Oakland.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Johnny:</FONT> <I>this piece is dedicated to all the children in New York and Afghanistan..</I> rap poetry anti war
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>52:00</font> End today\'s show.. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR=#6600cc><I>today\'s review by john lionheart</I></fonT><p>
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<FONT COLOR=#ffff99><STRONG>Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - <A href=\"http://www.flashpoints.net/realaudio/fp20011024.ram\"><small>Start First Audio Segment</small></strong></strong> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/AudioSecrets.html\"><IMG SRC=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/images/a.gif\" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=25 WIDTH=52 ALT=\"for audio FAQ, click here\"></font><br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>00:00</font><A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><IMG SRC=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/images/dennis.jpg\" align=left hspace=4 BORDER=1 HEIGHT=88 WIDTH=66 ALT=\"Dennis Bernstein photo\"> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis Bernstein</FONT> w Robert Knight, news headlines from New York City: Pakistani 9-11 round-upee dies in U.S. jail.. Taliban rounds up scores of \'enimies of the state\'.. 18th day of bombing, 1000 bomb near home for the elderly.. Taliban claims 1000 civilian deaths.. Joseph Biden warns U.S. looks like a high-tech bully..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>05:10</font>
Dennis Bernstein w Gerken Gerr(sp?), an ex-political prisoner.. <A HREF=\"http://www.ozgurluk.org/prison/\">Turkish Political Prisoners.. (TAPP?).. prisoners beaten on a daily basis.. <A HREF=\"\">hunger strike.. \'death fast\'.. four have died.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis:</FONT> in 1990 you got 3 months in prison for showing a slideshow and reading poetry..<FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr Gerr:</FONT> slideshow about political history in Turkey.. taken to Ankara main headquarters.. my friends were beaten, I was not.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis:</FONT> Is Turkey a democracy? Can you read poetry in public? <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr Gerr:</FONT> the contribution of the people into the system.. yes there is parliment.. then there is 7-8 men, 5 of them generals.. one president, one prime minister.. exactly one year ago, the hunger strike started in prison.. because of the <A HREF=\"http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1318000/1318076.stm\">isolation cells.. this is offensive, a human rights violation.. 850 initially took part.. 35 day, 7 different teams, approximately 50 in a teams joined.. 6 burnt alive.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr Gerr:</FONT> people are in total isolation, denied to see attorney, family, each other.. subject to torture, especially in the first 3 months.. this is what\'s happening.. 73 died so far either through killings, or starved.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr Gerr:</FONT> we believe.. the only source of help, be the people themselves.. we should do something about this.. the media completely ignoring the situation.. the <A HREF=\"http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1086000/1086621.stm\">family members on strike too, 8 have died..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>21:00</font> Noelle Hanrahan with lady from the Mission District of San Francisco.. she had a flyer on her window, \'End Israeli Apartheid Stop WWIII,\'.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Rosa Martinez:</FONT> in small typeset, have to be close to the house to see it.. blacked out.. spraypainted over.. filed a police report, the police told her there other flyers that have peace messages damaged in her neighborhood .. I am a mother, a Latina.. We are the fastest growing minority in this country. It comes down to the children. We have many people of color enrolled in ROTC training.. I am a renter.. (afraid of being evicted now by the owner, or scared into leaving).. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Rosa Martinez:</FONT> asking people to think peace not war. we can turn around any moment, we can change anytime we want to.
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>27:40</font> <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle</FONT> w Ruben Martinez, poet, essay. \"... Ruben reads: ... I shaved my beard yesterday, do I look more American now?...\"
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>31:50</font> Noelle Hanrahan with Ruben Martinez.. Ruben will read in S.F. at <I>A Clean Well Lighted Place for Books</I> the 29th, and at <I>Codys</I> in Berkeley on the 30th.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Ruben Martinez</FONT>: about the plight of Mexican immigrants smuggled across the border to America.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr. Martinez:</FONT> my goal is to bring to the life the human story.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr. Martinez:</FONT> We have made of our border a lethal weapon.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle:</FONT> What\'s occurring now in the sweeps? <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Mr. Martinez:</FONT> the INS decided that they wouldn\'t stage such massive workshop raids.. all these attempts by the INS to come up with a comprehensive policy.. all very mixed and very muddy..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>41:40</font> 20 minute music break (in progress), raggae .... <i>(HOAX BOMB THREAT OCCURRED NOW)</i>
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>43:00</font> End this audio segment.. <P><A href=\"http://www.flashpoints.net/realaudio/fp20011024b.ram\"><small>Start Second Audio Segment</small>
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>07:43</font>
Noelle back w Rueben Martinez..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>11:20</font> Noelle w Dennis: we\'re back in the building.. to quote Ken Ford.. <I>KPFA, WBAI are commercial licenses, it makes sense to parlay these into more stations.. think of what we could do with the difference..</I> now w attorney Michael Cousins: ((KPFA HAS JUST HAD A bomb threat hoax)) this is a down market for media.. ad sales are down.. grossly inappropriate to sell in a down market, 20% less than a year ago.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis:</FONT> the down side is it\'s grossly inappropriate to sell a listener built station.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Noelle:</FONT> when we win, will we get back a bankrupt.. Michael: The worst they could do, is sell an option secretly.. (explains).. an option.. self-dealing should not be allowed..
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>19:30</font> back w <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Rosa Martinez:</FONT> I think is important for KPFA, for you guys, to remain on the aid.. You have taught me to be a critical thinker.. I do not agree with all your guests.. I volunteer and answer phones.. I think people who can not give you money, should give you time.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>other guest:</FONT> KPFA a critical voice for truth.. the corporate media not serving the public.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>next guest:</FONT> we can expect to hear correspondents from around the world, where we can organize, a valuable mobilizing and educational resource.. newcomers like Hard Knock Radio.. the whole range of political views..

<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>25:00</font> End this second audio segment..

<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>xx:xx</font> End today\'s show.. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR=#6600cc><I>today\'s review by john lionheart</I></fonT><hr>



<FONT COLOR=#ffff99><STRONG>Tuesday Oct 23, 2001 - <A href=\"http://www.flashpoints.net/realaudio/fp20011023.ram\"><small>Start Audio</small></strong></strong> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/AudioSecrets.html\"><IMG SRC=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/images/a.gif\" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=25 WIDTH=52 ALT=\"for audio FAQ, click here\"></font><br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>00:00</font><A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><IMG SRC=\"http://www.flashpoints.net/images/dennis.jpg\" align=left hspace=4 BORDER=1 HEIGHT=88 WIDTH=66 ALT=\"Dennis Bernstein photo\"> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis Bernstein</FONT> w
news headlines by Robert Knight in New York City: another residential area hit in Kabul.. the president can now bypass the Pentagon.. desperation born of no results.. U.S. government back in the assassination business.. illegal under international law.. other cases, they have assassinated leaders.. about the CIA presence in Afghanistan.. but do they have any better information than before.. the Northern Alliance leadership not from Afghanistan.. <br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>05:15</font> <A HREF=\"http://www.Flashpoints.net/WhoIsDennisBernstein.html\"><FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Dennis Bernstein</FONT>: 30 people killed by Israel the last several days.. now w Canadian Bryan Wood who has lived in Beit Jalla the last 3 months.. in Beit Jalla.. an 18 year old boy, holding a baby in his arms, standing in Manger Square, in front of the Church of the Nativity.. shot by an Israeli sniper in the chest.. difficult to understand, he was standing in a place he thought was safe.. Israel\'s self-proclaimed war on terrorism, has been hell for Bethlehem.. shelling Bethlehem University, the French Maternity Hospital, the two refugee camps north of Bethlehem.. killed 4 mothers, 3 teenage boys, another boy ran up to a soldier and stabbed him.. another boy killed, who was deaf and unable to speak.. <br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>10:20</font>
now w Ms Araz (sp?) a (lady) volunteer with the Red Crescent/Red Cross: these areas of Bethlehem.. people have been trapped inside the Christian Bible College.. Israel holding 60 people hostage in two rooms of a house.. people are running out of water, out of food.. movement impossible.. more and more desparate.. tanks have entered Ramallah.. there is no terrorism here, other than the terrorism of the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestine.. ambulances are frequently shot at by Israeli military.. they have desvestated this area.. children can not go to school.. no work for parents.. a whole destruction of life.. the result of a very brutal occupation.. we must apply pressure on our own governments.. the Palestinians feel that they have no other choice than to resist.. young men in the street with guns against tanks.. Now w Bryan Wood: this afternoon after the international convoy left Bethlehem.. we drove through the streets calling for people to come out and non-violently protest the tanks in Beit Jalla.. only 10 people would come out of their houses.. Israel pounding Bethlehem.. great terror here.. who are the real terrorists? who are the people being terrorized?
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>19:50</font> <IMG SRC=\"http://www.flashpoints.net/images/00roy.jpg\" align=left hspace=4 BORDER=1 HEIGHT=108 WIDTH=100 ALT=\"Arundhati Roy\">
Dennis w Indian novelist, <A HREF=\"http://www.salon.com/sept97/00roy.html\">Arundhati Roy, author of London Times number 1 bestseller,
<A HREF=\"http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/lit-med/lit-med-db/webdocs/webdescrips/roy1177-des-.html\"><I>God of Small Things</I> and <A HREF=\"http://www.southendpress.org/\"><I>Power Politics</I>.. <A HREF=\"http://www.globalexchange.org/september11/guardian092901.html\"><I>Algebra of Infinite Justice</I>.. today published in the UK Guardian, her latest essay, titled <I><A HREF=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4283081,00.html\">War is Peace (Brutality smeared in peanut butter)</I>.. Arundhati Roy read her essay <A HREF=\"http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4283081,00.html\"><I>War is Peace</I> <A HREF=\"#roy1\"><I>yesterday</I> for Flashpoints.. excerpt:
<I>since the end of WWII the U.S. has made war on China, Korea, Indonesia, Cuba, Belgian Congo, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Granada, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Iraq, Bosnia, Sudan, Yugoslavia.. now Afghanistan.. </i>
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>24:00</font>
Dennis interview w Arundhati Roy: <I>..how the leaders reacted to it, without weighing their words, like a misslie going out into the hearts of the poor around the world.. .. ..time for the people, for the media, to stopping marching always to the..</I> .. Dennis: no major publisher will cover your work now? <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Roy:</FONT> all around the world, they publish me, in America now the free press will not.. *Roy is a..* <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Roy:</FONT> I am not with him and I am not with the terrorists.. this is hegemony of the mind.. it is unacceptable.. very dangerous.. trashing traditions of jurisprudence.. America doesn\'t think of itself as one country in the world, it thinks of itself *as* the world.. more powerful than America\'s nuclear bombs, is the media.. about Hollywood.. these terrorists attacks like some Hollywood fantasy come true.. I a little skeptical about this so called free press.. <FONT COLOR=#FFFFFF>The American Media has become a laughing stock..</FONT> ..maybe it\'s not so bad, but that\'s how it seems to me.. Dennis: about the richest country.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Roy:</FONT> nothing can justify terrorism, whether by religious extremists.. or wars of retribution by recognized governments.. .. an insult to one\'s intelligence.. Dennis: about bin Laden\'s relationship with the CIA.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Roy:</FONT> harvesting these religious extreme feelings for.. what\'s left, a kind of religious fervor.. you can not have a democracy when you have a rich country arming extremists.. <FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Roy:</FONT><FONT COLOR=#FFFFFF> if the Taliban is mistreating women, America is not going to stop them. <I>We have to stop them.</I> </font><FONT COLOR=#ffcc00>Roy:</FONT> about the similarities of George Bush and O.. .. ..breaking the stranglehold of the media.. I\'m somebody who does my best.. in America today people need the information, need the understanding.. let them make up their own minds.. Dennis: how do we \'win\' the war against terrorism.. Like saying you\'re going to win a war against war.. how do you win a war against war? never stop trying for peace.. terrorism is a.. not a.. .. .. that\'s exactly what they want..<FONT COLOR=#FFFFFF> we are falling into a terrible terrible trap.. put our heads together, tap into the wisdom of the world.. what *is* being done about it is boneheaded..</FONT>
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>46:00</font> more about Arundhati Roy
<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>47:13</font>
the expert Noelle Hanrahan with the Pacifica Watch segment.. news..<br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>48:30</font> Noelle interview w <A HREF=\"http://www.savepacifica.net/sofar.html#section5\">Dan Coughlin.. the network being run by.. we discovered.. from last year, the Pacifica National Office in the beltway, had a budget of 3 million dollars, $200,000 more than KPFA.. about the Pacifica Network News, budget about a million dollars a year.. money spent on a.. time NOT to fund .. rather to fund the lawsuits.. 28 cents of listener dollars going to administrative expenses.. see http://pacificacampaign.org and http://savepacifica.net.. call vvv.vvv.5551 or 800-797-6229</FONT><br><FONT COLOR=#cc6600>-</FONT><FONT COLOR=#ffff99>54:50</font> End today\'s show.. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR=#6600cc><I>today\'s review by john lionheart</I></fonT><p>
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