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Dodging Bullets in Nablus

by Jill Drier
Peace activists brave Israeli snipers in the Occupied West Bank.
http://www.counterpunch.org/drier0810.html

So, before I get started about yesterday, let
me say that while Sam was dodging rubber
bullets, tear gas and sound bombs at the
demonstration today (courtesy, of course, of
the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF)), I didn't
have one gun pointed at me or any shots fired
over my head today. For the first day since I
have been here in Nablus.

Ok, yesterday: while Sam, Merna and I were
buying bread for families, two Israeli armored
personnel carriers (APC's) pulled up and shut
the bread stand down. Then as one APC pulled
away, a kid in the alley right next to the APC
threw a Molotov cocktail and scored a hit on
part of the APC.

So the Israeli soldiers FREAK out and start
shooting into the apartment building, in the
completely wrong direction. We SCREAMED at
him and he stopped, but the other APC heard
the fire and came back around the corner for
'support'. We de-escalated the soldiers and
then one said to me, "go and bring me the
map." (y'all will like my Israeli accent).

So I walked down the street looking for a map.
Now, meanwhile the people on the street have
emptied and they are all hiding in the alleys
and coves and such. So I walk down and several
are yelling to me, 'what does he want?' Of
course I don't understand until someone yells in
English, but I had the gist already and was
saying, 'who the hell knows?'

I picked up some paper trash and called back to
him, 'is this it? Is this it?' -- it's good to play
dumb, of course. So, they pulled back and left.
Well, I needed a breather after that one, so we
left the scene for about five minutes. Moments
later we get a call, that now there are tanks,
APC's and some jeeps in the same area, as well
as 12 international activists -- could we
immediately go there?

Due to a horrible lack of communication, no one
had any idea what we had just been thru when
we arrived. Of course from OUR end we had
gotten the word out about what happened. So,
long story longer - Palestinians started throwing
rocks and since this is about their only form of
resistance, we stepped back. This of course let
the IOF be able to fire their guns (hard to
explain without seeing the street). Two jeeps
even pulled up right in front of us and opened
fire. Of course we were screaming and then
they stopped and took off.

The cool part is being in the streets with the
Palestinians and feeling their energy as they
clap and chant (they get loud -- they chant 'god
is great') and stand with us, knowing the tanks
and such won't fire at them with us there. There
aren't ANY women of course, and that sucks....

Digressing a bit: three or four nights ago, Sam
and I walked down the road into the Balata
Refugee Camp and stayed at a martyr's house.
Stressed out family. Since then I have been
with a few more martyr's families and realized
that that family was an exception, according to
my experience because these families were like
all the rest of the families here, kind kind kind.
I swear I have never drank so much coffee and
tea in my life.

Another woman, Serena, stayed at the stressed
out family's house the next night and told us
the following morning that the family actually
got into a fist fight (yeah, the wife and
daughters too!) with their neighbor.

So today, most people went to a demonstration
at the Huwara Checkpoint, an hour walk, but I
decided to stay in Nablus. I hung out with four
Palestinians relief volunteers and delivered milk
to babies. Yeah, parents do not have milk for
their babies/young children.

I heard today that Palestine has the largest
growing population in the world, over 50% is
under the age of sixteen. That was chill
enough, but the workers want escorts for
'security' and since another volunteer was taken
from the center the day before, they were a
little more nervous .

Mohammed, the one taken yesterday was
wearing a martyr necklace and the IOF ripped it
off his neck (the pendent is of a photo of his
friend, a martyr). A martyr, for those who do
not know, is term used for a suicide bomber
AND anyone who has been killed during this
intifada. Mohammed was released today, but
they beat him up pretty badly, so he is home
for a bit. No reason for detaining him at all.

So, after walking around delivering milk several
internationals decided that they wanted to
check on an apartment building on the hill
where the soldiers were staying and occupying.
After getting another international, the 6 of us
headed up the hill to check on these families. I
figured that they occupied that building
strategically.

A few of us went in (women) and chatted with
the Palestinian families and got their needs
noted, foods and medicines. The apartment was
5 floors, 2 apartments on each floor. The
soldiers had one complete floor and all them
were shirtless, hanging out, playing guitar, like
they owned the place, while 3 families were
terrified for their lives. The other apartments
were empty (it seemed like a brand new
building, not fully occupied with residents).

So after that, we split into 3 groups of 2 to get
the food and medicine. My partner was Fadi. A
pretty resourceful guy, before I knew it he had
gotten a ride in a big flatbed truck to Balata,
where the UN warehouse is. Remember it is
curfew, so NOTHING is allowed on the streets,
let alone driving out to the outskirts of town.
Curfew here has meant the last 40 days, 24
hours a day with tiny windows of precarious
time to fetch food.

We made it and just after pulling in, a tank and
a bulldozer showed up to close the road since
cars were driving around. The UN warehouse is
a joke. FOOD is everywhere, sitting around. The
UN is a joke. Thousands of poor people with NO
money to buy food in Nablus and WE hitch a
ride, pick up food and deliver it ourselves.

On the way back, we saw a tank driving pretty
fast on the parallel road but we beat it and got
back to Nablus alright. Then we separated the
food and got ready to go. Well, Fadi, wanted to
get the one and only ambulance from the center
to load the food to take up on the hill. But it
wasn't around, so we used his van -- sketchy,
eh?

Though we made it up there alright, the
soldiers had switched out and all bets were off
for us going back inside to deliver the food
ourselves. After biting my lip and talking to the
soldiers, they got one of the Palestinians to
come out to bring the food in. The whole
situation and bargaining and discussing is crap,
although the soldier was talkable, if you know
what I mean.

So during all of this, the soldier says, 'you don't
remember me, do you?' "oh, from before
.....here right?" "No," he replied and then I
knew he was the guy looking for the map
yesterday, in the APC.

"Oh yeah, I remember,' I quipped back. He said,
'So you didn't help me yesterday, why should I
help you?"( I was trying to get into the house
and possibly spend the night there with the
families.) I said, 'What more could I have done,
I walked down the street and looked for the
map, geez?'

Talking to them is difficult and one must stay
calm to help prevent retaliation against the
Palestinians, believe me, whether there are
soldiers who don't 'agree' with the occupation or
'hate' when a Palestinian is killed, they all have
a choice to refuse, and therefore, NO
SYMPATHY from me.

One last thing. As we were walking back (dusk,
I'm no longer too hesitant to walk in the dark,
except for snipers) today a woman pulls up in a
car and says, 'aren't you afraid to be on the
street?' I said, 'no, not really, they recognize us
now, they know who we are and why we are
here.' She said, ' take care' I said to her, 'aren't
you afraid to drive now?' (many people sneak
around in cars), and she said, 'no here we have
nothing to live for, so we don't care, but YOU,
you have to return to tell the world what is
happening here, so YOU take care" and she
drove off.

So many times during the day, I just want to
release a little and cry but I don't, and this was
one of those times, for sure. I can only kind of
get choked up, not cry, probably because I am
so angry and not sad.

Jill Dreier is one of two Coloradans in Palestine
joining hundreds of internationals with the
International Solidarity Movement in nonviolent
direct action to end Israel's illegal military
occupation of Palestine. More on Jill's trip at:
http://www.ccmep.org/palestine.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/drier0810.html
by Alex Evers
"Palestinians started throwing
rocks and since this is about their only form of
resistance . . .'
So who are the people with the bombs strapped to their bodies who are killing all the Israeli children ?

"The cool part is being in the streets with the
Palestinians and feeling their energy as they
clap and chant (they get loud -- they chant 'god
is great') and stand with us, knowing the tanks
and such won't fire at them with us there.'
Is it you guys targeting the children of Israel ?

" I walked down the road into the Balata
Refugee Camp and stayed at a martyr's house.
By martyr do you mean one who has targeted and killed Israeli children ?

"A martyr, for those who do
not know, is term used for a suicide bomber
AND anyone who has been killed during this
intifada."
Oh man. You sympathize with those who target and kill children.

When are any of you going to understand that untill palestinians stop targeting children, no one is going to give a rancid rats ass about palestine.
I couldnt care less if every Jew in Israel abandoned the whole region tommorow. As far as I'm concerned they can have south Utah. (old friend's good idea)
But its you silly blind indymediers here and the Palestinian baby killers who sell me the belief that palestinians not only do not deserve a state. They dont deserve food or water either.
Wake up people. You have sympathy for the devil and it seems to me the only reason you do is because in the subculture hip world youre lost in, thats cool.
by nobody
Here's footage of Israeli soldiers killing a Palestinian boy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/950000/video/_952600_shooting2_vi.ram

They also killed an ambulance driver trying to rescue them. And injured a second ambulance driver trying to save all three:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/952600.stm

The only difference between this and all the other Palestinian children killed is that this one was actually caught on film so that the Israel couldn't deny it -- they tried to anyway though.

As for the idea about relocating Israelis to South Dakota or whatever... You have to understand, the Israelis are not native to the area. In 1900 there were no Israelis there and only a handful of native Jews who lived in peace with their Christian and Muslim neighbors. Then at the beginning of the 20th century, European Zionists started emigrating there. In 1948, before Israel's "War of Independence," Jews owned about 6% of the land.

Israelis came to control most of the land, not by peaceful means, but by massacring entire Palestinian villages and forcing the rest of the population to flea for their lives. Deir Yassin was one such village that also happened to be well documented. More than 250 villagers were killed in cold blood there. Pregnant women had their bellies slit open with machetes. All this to make room for Jews who we here in the west naturally consider more important than Arabs -- at least that's what we've been trained by the mainstream media.

Now Palestinian refugees from 1948 still live in squalid refugee camps in Lebanon and are bombed occasionally by Israel (like Qana in 1997 -- which left 106 people dead, including women and children).

I can understand how anyone can think the way Alex thinks; given what he's been taught most of his life. The exceptions -- those that believe differently -- is what is really impressive.

People who are willing to break out of the propaganda system and understand the world the way it really is -- those are the kind of people that make America great...
by ShishKabab
"Here's footage of Israeli soldiers killing a Palestinian boy:"

That boy, Muhammad Dura, was actually shot by the Palestinian police force, that was established by an impartial German tv station. Now, ask yourselves why was Dura shot by his own people?

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=18774
by independent thinker
The website right above is pretty much an Israeli apologist site probably run by the Israeli government or some Zionist group. You can pretty much gather this by checking out any of their articles on Israel or the Palestinians.
by it was on TV so it must be true
yeah, right
by nobody
In their bid for world sympathy, not only did Palestinians kill a Palestinian boy, but they also waited around and killed the ambulance workers trying to rescue them? Give me a break... Israeli Propaganda is getting very tiresome.
by me
pal_child_in_terror_camp.jpgf73315.jpg
The Palestinians are doing a pretty good job at discrediting themselves.
by X
thats what the Nazis said when the French Resistance became armed. Seems you do a pretty good job of self-discrediting yourself.
by me
"thats what the Nazis said when the French Resistance became armed"

What did the say exactly?
Reference? link?
by X
for God's sake you must be a moron not to know that Germans characterized the French resistance fighters as degenerate drunkards, bandits, and terrorists. No I won't provide you a link or reference, you lazy bastard. Do I have to provide you a link to support the fact the Americans revolted against the British? Or that Canada is not a tropical country? Don't be an idiot.
by X
and by the way .. the Israelis are perfectly capable of disrcrediting themselves too. Except that unlike the Palestinian, this fellow's gun is real. Why he's pointing it at a small child, well I guess she must be a terrorist. Can't you see what an evil demonic mastermind she must be, what with that obvious bomb in hand?
by X
palestiniansramallah0302www.jpg
and by the way .. the Israelis are perfectly capable of disrcrediting themselves too. Except that unlike the Palestinian, this fellow's gun is real. Why he's pointing it at a small child, well I guess she must be a terrorist. Can't you see what an evil demonic mastermind she must be, what with that obvious bomb in hand?
by me
Again -
What did they say exactly?
Reference? link?

How many German children did the French freedom fighters kill? How is this analogy even remotely relevant?
by X
look, mr. racist stereotyper, why don't you defend your racist comment first? I've already answered you on that score. No one ever claimed the Resistance killed children .. the only claim was that once they were armed the Nazis claimed they were rabble and a discredit to themselves. Got it? Good. Now explain to me how one small child can discredit an entire race by holding a toy gun, but the soldier holding an M-16 at a group of children is no discredit. Please. I'd like to see you try.
by X
sorry. I don't see anything wrong with a kid playing with a toy gun. And if there is anything beyond the borders of the picture, the soldier would have his weapon trained towards the border of the pictures, not at a little girl. I never said he was about to execute her. What he's doing is obvious. He's TERRORIZING CHILDREN. Sorry, but nothing you can say will negate that FACT. Twist and struggle all you want. The Israeli cause is to support a racial homeland (like the Aryan Nations cause) by the use of terror.
by X
I see you are completely incapable of backing up your wild claims. So much for your the reliability of your comments.
by Dave
the israeli soldier isn't even pointing at the children look at it from another angle for god sakes.......i mean honestly you expect us to swallow that crap. his weapon is pointed either in front of or beside the crowd guaranteed......look at his posture
by ...
It always astounds me the absurdities to which pro-Israelis sink down in order to defend their beloved country. "He's not really aiming at them, just in their general direction! He didn't mean to shoot the kid, it was an accident! Ten people weren't run over by tanks in Jenin, only three! Israel didn't kill 500 people in its invasion in April, only 200!" and on and on ad nauseam.
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