Delta Airlines refuses passengers because of their nationality

The removal of Israeli officials is not ethnic targetting; it is targetting a specific reactionary government, just as removal of officials representing any other fascist government would be. The government of Israel is certainly a security risk to world peace, as is its paymaster, the US government. I am glad to hear that the consciousness of American pilots is finally alert to the horrors of fascist Israel.

I hope they become alert to the fascist politics of the US government and stop voting for the two parties that always support Israel, the Democrats and Republicans. At the top of everyone's litmus test list of issues for candidates must be opposing any US funding or verbal support for Israel. That automatically eliminates from consideration all Democrats and all Republicans. If you don't like the candidates for a given position, skip that position or run for office yourself.

This hypocrasy is the result of political correctness demanding that everyone pretend that the security risk isn't the Muslim Arabs who make up 100% of those who blow up American planes....

I will never fly Delta again, it's a crappy airline anyhow.

Funny how people who are really obsessed with something see it everywhere they want to. First, TC, no one claims the Israeli was kicked off because of his ethnicity, it was his nationality. If this is OK, then why is there critisism when citizens from countries that support terrorism (ex- Saudi Arabia) are treated differently, not based on race, but nationality.
Second, the pilot's descion was not in support of the Palestinians as you delusionally took it as. there was noa bold political statement. He was trying to stop Muslim fanatics from targetting the plane by removing someone who was more likely than most to be there target. This makes as much sense as kicking African-Americans off planes if several incidences occur where the KKK blows up planes to terrorize them. Or little ol' ladies- if Al Queda says they are going to go after little old blue hair ladies do we inhibit there ability to go about their lives or do we have a backbone and go after those who are most likely to be in AL-QUeda- and "profile" Saudis, Egyptians, Pakistanis. There is nothing wront with this, right TC, after all they all come from reactionary facist governments too, right?

And the proof of this is?

The stinking Zionist has yet to learn the English language: Ethnicity and nationality are interchangeable. The piece of trash who was kicked off the plane was an Israeli. That was his nationality and his ethnicity. Judaism is a religion, or more precisely, a superstition. Those of us who are atheists whose ancestors believed in the Jewish religion (and in my case, part of those ancestors fled the Holocaust, and some did not survive), would not be so polite as to simply kick the little piece of shit off the plane. We would tell him to his fascist shit face that he was a stinking little fascist thug, a lackey of US oil imperialism.

As to the Reichstag Fire of September 11, 2001 in New York & Washington, that was the CIA's Operation Northwoods realized, carried out by the US military, the CIA, and as their junior helper, Israel. The evidence is massive. Its purpose was, like the Reichstag Fire of the Nazis who are much adored by George War Bush and all his friends, to perpetrate fascism and smash labor at home while promoting blood for oil wars to make the rich richer.

To every stinking Zionist reading this: The world knows the history of collaboration of the Zionists with European imperialism, the Nazis, Mussolini and now US imperialism. From 1947 to today, the Zionists are guilty of not only collaboration with fascists to enrich their own stinking little selves, and during the Holocaust, save their own miserable worthless selves, they are guilty of genocide of Arabs and theft of Arab lands, using every means of terror possible, including suicide bombings. Yes, there were Jewish suicide bombers. So, all you stinking Zionists, stick your Nazi heads up your asses and leave them there. Your whole stinking racket is over. The world now sees you what you are: A gang of murderous thugs doing the bidding of oil imperialism to enrich yourselves. Your racket has ended, stinking parasites. Go work for a living for a change. shit heads. I am one of those Jews Without Money, the title of the classic novel by Michael Gold. We have no use for stinking Zionist shitheads. The class struggle is primary.

Israeli officials are members of a terrorist organization in conflict with other terrorist organizations; thus they are a security threat. Seems logical to me. I think all Israeli officials, all members of Palestinian resistance organizations, should be banned from entry to all Western countries, territory, airplanes, etc, and Western governments should immediatly close communication, transportation, and third-party trade with this region until such time as a multilateral intervention arrives and reaches an amicable solution to the dispute.

I disagree with Zionism as it is a racist ideology. Anyone promoting a state based on race is a racist. The modern world does not accept any longer that governments should represent any particular ethnicity more favourably than others. We learned this in WW2. The UN should establish refugees from around the world, places like Asia, Africa, Central America, into Israel to prevent the establishment of either a Jewish or Arabic racist state in the region. In a 'melting pot' situation it is more difficult for a racist state to proliferate. Thus conflict becomes irrelevant and peace is promoted.

"The modern world does not accept any longer that governments should represent any particular ethnicity more favourably than others"

Israel is not based on ethnicity, you ignoramus, it is based or religion, you too can convert to Judaism and be accepted as an Israeli citizen.

technically, that is true. But come on. Who are you trying to kid?

also, the modern world no longer accepts a government with no clear separation of church and state.

"also, the modern world no longer accepts a government with no clear separation of church and state"

What about the Vatican?

good point. The vatican isn't really a 'nation' though, more like a city-state. Very very tiny countries are often anomalous. And for the record I oppose the Vatican. I don't think countries should be run by superstitious cults.

You said that Israel was a religious state. The problem is that it's not. Zionism began as an atheistic Jewish ideology of racial nationalism. Many Orthodox Jewish sects such as Neturei Karta oppose Zionism insisting that the Torah specifically explains Israel is only to be achieved through spiritual means and only after the return of the Messiah. Many other Orthodox sects oppose Zionism. Lots of Rabbis think it's bad. The largest Jewish rally in the history of Israel, which occured recently, drew 100 000 Jews of the Satmar sect to listen to Rabbi Teitelbam speak against Zionism.

Muslims and Arabs represent the "terrorist threat" yet instead of praise the airline for having the "balls" to have them removed, airlines are stuck with these "risks" as they will sue if they have to spend 30 seconds longer at security then non-terrorist threats.

"Many Orthodox Jewish sects such as Neturei Karta oppose Zionism insisting that the Torah specifically explains Israel is only to be achieved through spiritual means and only after the return of the Messiah"

I didn't say that Israel should exist because of the Torah, I’m agnostic anyhow. Israel should exist as a safe haven for the Jewish people.

"Israel is not based on ethnicity, you ignoramus, it is based or religion"

but now i bring up NT and you suddenly turn around and say that Israel is in fact a racial state. Which is it? Please make up your mind.

"A pilot for a Delta Air Lines subsidiary would not fly Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Michael Melchior from Cincinnati to Toronto because the pilot thought Melchior posed a security risk," the Associated Press reports. Melchior, who was being escorted by State Department officials, was forced to catch a later flight. A spokeswoman for the subsidiary, Comair, tells ABC News that "it was a procedural matter that involved securing the proper paperwork for a firearm," though she refuses to elaborate further.

Something similar happened back in December to an Arab-American Secret Service agent, prompting shrieks of outrage from the Council on American Islamic Relations and others. The sound you hear now is silence.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1028814654019

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20020812_719.html

look. being Arab doesn't mean anything. The fellow was an American. Period. The Israeli who was barred was not barred due to ethnicity; he was barred because of his membership and employment by a state believed to sponsor terrorism and believed to be in conflict with other terrorists. What you are suggesting is that someone has terrorist connections because of their race. Pure unadulterated racism like you people always spew everywhere you go.

"but now i bring up NT and you suddenly turn around and say that Israel is in fact a racial state. Which is it? Please make up your mind."

I didn't say it is a racial state, and i didn't say it is based on the Torah. It is based on the fact that Jewdaism started in the ancient land of Israel, and the Jews are allowed to return to their homeland. It is based on history. Israel's immigration laws are a totally different matter.

"The Israeli who was barred was not barred due to ethnicity; he was barred because of his membership and employment by a state believed to sponsor terrorism"

Israel is "believed to sponsor terrorism"? by whom? besides Arabs and clueless radical left activists.

The Jewish people were expelled from the land of Judaea by G-d. This is known as the Diaspora. When Zionists formulated their idea for a Jewish state, Orthodox scholars fought with them, saying that Israel would be reborn according to the Torah, which states that this will occur by the will of God and will be marked by a Messiah. Zionists rejected this and continue to persecute Orthodox Jews. Zionists even blockaded attempts to halt the Holocaust, saying that "Eretz Yisroel will be ours only by paying with blood. " Orthodox scholars continue to maintain that the state of Israel has no religious foundation and has in fact usurped Judaism with a heresy. Thus Zionism has no religious grounds for the return to the homeland, which was thousands of years ago.

So what is the background for the Zionist state? Zionists deliberately confuse this question because it has no legitimate background. It is a racial state; one for Semites. To claim some right of return to a 2000 year old homeland without religious authority is like saying that Irish Celts should be allowed to own all of northern and central Europe since they lived there 2000 years ago. It is foolishness. It is the Zionist lie. Zionists even assassinated leading proponents of a mixed and secular Jewish/Palestinian state.

Support Neturei Karta in their struggle against the Zionist collaborators.

http://www.netureikarta.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

"Israel is the *only* place on earth where Jews are routinely murdered for being Jews. A safe haven!?! Give me a break."

try telling that to Daniel Pearl. Or the Jews in Iran who are routinely framed for being spies for Israel and tortured/imprisoned. No Jew (or Hindu or atheist)can live in safety in Muslim countries although the "evil" west gives them the religious freedom and freedom from percecution no "infidel" is intitled to there.

Also Europe has ceased being a safe have for Jews with the large number of Muslim immigrants who committ hate crimes way out of proportion to their population. The majority of hate crimes against Jews in Europe are committed by Muslim immigrants. Perhaps some bleeding heart lefty can go over there and teach them that racial profiling is bbaaaad. Why shouldn't Europeans being "xenophobic" if immigrants are teaching their children to be prejudice against those of other cultures, relgions, etc?

"The Jewish people were expelled from the land of Judaea by G-d"

It is getting increasingly difficult to take you seriously, X2. Read a book will you? The Jewish people were expelled by G-d??? ;-)

"To claim some right of return to a 2000 year old homeland without religious authority is like saying that Irish Celts should be allowed to own all of northern and central Europe since they lived there 2000 years ago"

What's the problem with that? No borders, dude.

start with the Torah. The concept of the Diaspora is clearly spelled out for everyone there.

"What's the problem with that? No borders, dude."

No problem at all. But ruling a place is vastly different than just moving there. And if the Israelis are such virtuous supporters of no borders why do they erect fences to contain Palesitinian areas??