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Radical Islam, Neo-Nazis Are Seen Sharing Hate Rhetoric

by Rachael Donadio
"We have always been courted by white supremacists," said Mazin Qumsiyeh, a professor of genetics at Yale University who moderates the two-year-old listserv of Al-Awda, the Palestinian Right to Return Coalition, which has 12,000 subscribers. "We unsubscribe many people who try to post things that are objectionable and anti-Semitic," he said.
November 23, 2001
Forward News

From a racist church in Illinois to a neo-Nazi Web site to a Muslim weekly newspaper in New York, domestic white supremacist and Islamic extremist groups have been finding common cause since September 11 in anti-Jewish invective, hate-group monitors are warning.

In recent weeks, opinion essays by white supremacists such as David Duke and William Pierce have cropped up in Islamic publications and Web sites in the United States and abroad. At the same time, several American neo-Nazi Web sites offer links to Islamic sites. On these sites, the rhetoric ranges from harsh criticism of Israel to tirades against "jews" (with a lowercase J). Anti-Jewish conspiracy theories also abound.

Organizations that track hate groups are debating the degree to which the shared anti- Jewish views of Islamic extremists and neo-Nazi groups indicate organizational collusion or just rhetorical affinities. Yet they agree that the invective has grown increasingly worrisome since the September terrorist attacks and note that law enforcement officials have been investigating possible ties.

"They're making common cause," said Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that tracks hate groups. "That's a different thing than to say they're working hand in glove, shoulder to shoulder."

Some Muslim groups are also tracking the issue. "We have always been courted by white supremacists," said Mazin Qumsiyeh, a professor of genetics at Yale University who moderates the two-year-old listserv of Al-Awda, the Palestinian Right to Return Coalition, which has 12,000 subscribers. "We unsubscribe many people who try to post things that are objectionable and anti-Semitic," he said.

In the past year there have been concrete signs of coordination. European and American neo-Nazis organized a Holocaust denial conference that was to have taken place in Beirut in late March. The conference, "Zionism and Revisionism," was billed as an opportunity for Western extremists to meet their counterparts in the Islamic world.

The Lebanese government called off the event under pressure from American diplomats and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Los Angeles-based organization that monitors anti-Semitism. A scaled-down conference took place in April in Jordan.

The coordination and money that went into the conference "means that there are relationships that already exist and that can deepen," said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, a dean at the Wiesenthal Center.

This week, the Wiesenthal Center published a new study of hate sites, "9/11 Digital Lies: A Survey of Online Apologists for Global Terrorism.'' Available on its Web site, the center's report concludes that "the Internet is a new staging ground for a new type of war. We ignore it at our own peril."

The Anti-Defamation League has also weighed in. On November 9, Abraham Foxman, ADL's national director, said the terrorist attacks have "created a new dynamic where the rhetoric of anti-Semites in this country is being picked up and recycled in some segments of the Muslim and Arab world to advance hateful myths and conspiracy theories about Israel and Jews."

Abroad, essays by Mr. Duke, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and founder of the European-American Unity and Rights Organization, have cropped up on http://www.tanzeem.com, an extremist Web site based in Pakistan.

In addition, the on-line "Syria Times" reprinted an article called "Anthrax Terrorists May be Zionists," by Hector Carreon, head of the "Nation of Aztlan," which ADL called "a fringe California-based Hispanic nationalist organization."


Radio speeches by Mr. Pierce, the leader of the National Alliance, have been broadcast several times on Iranian radio since September 11. Mr. Pierce told the Forward via email that his weekly broadcasts "reach the whole world, including the Arab world, via short-wave radio and via the Internet."

Mr. Pierce is the author of "The Turner Diaries," a widely circulated anti-government novel that Timothy McVeigh said inspired him to blow up a federal building in Oklahoma in 1995. The National Alliance Web site features images of blonde children and warns that multiculturalism is a "disease."

In New York, Muslims, a Queens-based English-language weekly newspaper, has recently printed opinion pieces by Mr. Duke and Mr. Pierce, although neither was identified in the newspaper as a white supremacist.

Anver Saad, a contributing writer at Muslims, said that the editors had found the articles by Mr. Pierce and Mr. Duke on the Internet and didn't know the writers' "exact background."

They decided to stop publishing the two after "a lot of African-American brothers complained," Mr. Saad said.

The two-year-old weekly is distributed in local mosques, shops and restaurants. Muslims's founding editor, Jawed Anwar, did not return repeated calls for comment.

Meanwhile, under the heading "Let's stop being human shields for Israel," the World Church of the Creator in East Peoria, Ill., quotes Osama bin Laden on its Web site. "So we tell the Americans... If they value their lives and the lives of their children, to find a nationalistic government that will look after their interests and not the interests of the Jews."

A Florida-based neo-Nazi group, Aryan Action, features an Arabic inscription on its Web site alongside the English message: "Support Taliban, Smash ZOG," or Zionist Occupied Government, a common reference in neo-Nazi circles to the supposed Jewish control over world affairs. "It's your choice, comrades," the site reads. "Either you're fighting with the jews [sic] against al Qaeda, or you support al Qaeda fighting against the jews."

According to Mr. Potok, groups like the National Alliance viewed the September 11 attacks with "slack-jawed admiration."

"They watched the towers fall and were blind with envy," he said.

Indeed, Billy Roper, a leader of the National Alliance, expressed his awe in a members-only chat room monitored by the Southern Poverty Law Center. "The enemy of our enemy is, for now, our friend," Mr. Roper wrote, referring to extremist Muslims.

"We may not want them marrying our daughters, just as they wouldn't want us marrying theirs.... But anyone who's willing to drive a plane into a building to kill jews is alright [sic] by me. I wish our members had half as much testicular fortitude," he wrote.

While they may agree about Israel and Jews, by and large radical Muslim groups and white supremacists still dislike one another.

"The fact that most Muslims and I are in agreement on the issue of U.S. support for Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with multiculturalism," Mr. Pierce told the Forward in an email message. "I neither like nor dislike Muslims, as long they stay in the Middle East. I believe that we can agree on Israel without living together in the same country."

According to Mr. Potok, there isn't "any big organizational bridge" between Muslims and domestic American extremists. "There are obviously a few contacts, but I don't think it's well developed."

However, Mr. Potok said, "That kind of connection is pretty well developed in Europe."

Such connections came to the fore last spring, when the Beirut Holocaust denial conference was cancelled. The event was co-organized by the Institute for Historic Review, a California-based Holocaust denial outfit, and Verité et Justice, a Swiss neo-Nazi group.

The Swiss group is headed by Jurgen Graf, who fled to Iran after a Swiss court charged him with Holocaust denial in 1988. Speakers on the program included Muslim academics, journalists and political activists.

The conference piqued the interest of law enforcement, said the Wiesenthal Center's Rabbi Cooper. "It set off alarm bells everywhere," he said.

More recently, some press reports have indicated that authorities are looking into a possible domestic source for last month's anthrax attacks. Investigators, however, are tight-lipped about whether they're tracing threads between white supremacists and radical Islamist groups.

"The FBI is unable to comment on any potential investigative matters," said Steven Barry, an FBI spokesman.
by Questionable Alliances
Is this any worse than Israel's former alliance with Apartheid South Africa? Israel exchanged nuclear weapons technology with South Africa in the '80's.

Or how about Israel's current alliance with Christian Fundamentalists.

Back during WWII, Zionist leaders collaborated with Nazi Germany to help insure the creation of Israel.

German Zionism offers to collaborate with Nazism:
http://marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch05.htm

Yet none of this discredits Israel...

Israel would probably embrace neonazis if they were pro-Israel.
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Note: The Ministry of Islamic Liaison is a sector of the Aryan Nations organization existing for the express purpose of executing the task of outreach in solidarity, to the bona-fide adherents of Islam in the Arabic world and abroad (who, for Israelites, are cousins through Ishmael, descendants of Nahor). Not all articles on this particular page express the views of the collective Aryan Nations organization as some of the articles are written by Muslims themselves. For those Americans inside and outside the struggle who still harbor twinges of misplaced patriotism, those who may in fact object to the work and/or existence of this office; please remember that the Ministry of Islamic Liaison has not nor shall issue any erroneous verbiage nor coddling apologies regarding our stance.

To contact the Minister of Islamic Liaison send an email to the following:

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by Chief
"Israel would probably embrace neonazis if they were pro-Israel"

Exactly!

When Pierce croaked I saw in this very forum several PALs who said good things about Pierce because Pierce had been supporting the Palestinian movement since the late 1970's.

Duke and most of the right wing racialists have gone on record in the last decade in speeches and books supporting PALS because they know what it is like to be under the foot of the Jew and fiercely believe Palestinians should be free of Israeli tyranny. There is not one right wing racial separatist site that does not applaud the Palestinians for their extreme bravery.

What Forward should really be concerned about in its warning to its Jewish readership, is at what point right wing racial separatist learn from the experience of Palestinians, and join the Palestinians in attacks against Jews in America.

American Jewry is responsible for the crimes committed in Israel under our names. American Jewry who has perverted US foreign policy and has caused the US to be the most hated nation in the world.

American Jews now have a choice. Stop supporting the terrorist state of Israel, or face not only Islamic and European hatred of the Jew, but face militant right wing insurgency against the Jew in America. What started out as world wide awakening of just how evil the state of Israel is, has quickly become recognition that it is not Israel per se that is so pernicious, but Jewry itself.

Instead of Forward's never ending whining about the enemies of Jews, whether they are on the left, center, or right, Forward should consider teaching the American Jew how to be an American citizen first and foremost, and not an Israeli criminal.

by gusto
It's unbelievable but true, how so many Jews look at the world thru Jews-Only filters. As if Jews are somehow above any kind of criticism or can say or do whatever they want without impunity. And certainly, the Israeli bombing of the USS Liberty which killed 34 Americans, and wounded over a hundred more, proved (http://www.ussliberty.com) just that. As far as being guilty of hate rhetoric, just look at the kind of posts they create in response to any article even questionning what Jews think about the conflict. Articles criticizing the racist, apartheid, leeching country of Israel generate the most vitriolic venom that is most definately irrationally hateful. I was once accused of being anti-Semitic in a conversation I had with a Zionist Jew when I said I was for the two-state solution. I responded by asking him, "Do you hate Arabs?" His reply was, "Of course I do!" As if it was his God-given right to hate Arabs and it was completely natural and completely acceptable for him to proclaim that he hates Arabs. This is the arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical, one-sided attitude that most Zionists seem to have. They claim that Arabs want "to push them into the sea", and yet the Zionist terrorists massacred thousands of Palestinains on the day that Israel was declared a state in 1948, and chased off over 750,000 Palestinians from their own homeland, whose descendants today are living in wretched refugee camps. This is the kind of hypocracy and double-standard that I hate, yes, hate about most Zionists. This aspect about Zionists I do detest, although they may have good attributes otherwise. I condemn the Zionists actions of ethnic cleansing. And today, most of them are still unwilling to live as equals with Palestinians, in a secular, democratic state, and/or even refuse to want to give Palestinians back even the 22% of the land (The Gaza Strip and The West Bank) for a Palestinian state. They just refuse to cooperate. It's their way, or no way. Today, Zionists continue with their ethnic cleansing of the indigenous peoples, the Palestinians, unabated thus far, while our US government looks the other way, and accepts bribes from powerful, enormously wealthy Zionist Jews. The largest Jewish lobby group is ominously called American Israeli Public Affairs Committee. Do I hear the rumblings of a revolution? I hope so.
by defjamcon1
Gusto Wrote:

<<As if Jews are somehow above any kind of criticism or can say or do whatever they want without impunity. And certainly, the Israeli bombing of the USS Liberty which killed 34 Americans, and wounded over a hundred more, proved (http://www.ussliberty.com) just that >>

On May 17, 1987, an Iraqi missile attack on the USS Stark, killed thirty seven people. The attack on the Stark was the worst naval attack since WWII. Since we were supporting the Iraqis in their war against Iran, we never did anything about it. Why was there a coverup?

http://www.mdw.army.mil/fs-p04.htm
http://www.geocities.com/usshipstark/History_all.htm
http://wolfstories2.tripod.com/id71.htm

In both instances the real question is why did the US not do anything? If in the case of the Liberty there was some sort of "Jewish control" (as many allude to on indymedia) to prevent the government from taking action what prevented us from taking action in the case of the Stark? Certainly no one would postulate that there was some kind of "Iraqi control" of foreign policy. Would they?
by defjamcon1
Gusto Wrote:

<<As if Jews are somehow above any kind of criticism or can say or do whatever they want without impunity. And certainly, the Israeli bombing of the USS Liberty which killed 34 Americans, and wounded over a hundred more, proved (http://www.ussliberty.com) just that >>

On May 17, 1987, an Iraqi missile attack on the USS Stark, killed thirty seven people. The attack on the Stark was the worst naval attack since WWII. Since we were supporting the Iraqis in their war against Iran, we never did anything about it. Why was there a coverup?

http://www.mdw.army.mil/fs-p04.htm
http://www.geocities.com/usshipstark/History_all.htm
http://wolfstories2.tripod.com/id71.htm

In both instances the real question is why did the US not do anything? If in the case of the Liberty there was some sort of "Jewish control" (as many allude to on indymedia) to prevent the government from taking action what prevented us from taking action in the case of the Stark? Certainly no one would postulate that there was some kind of "Iraqi control" of foreign policy. Would they?
by Nazis - follow your leader
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Nazis - follow your leader
by JT
Zionazis, follow your leader on whom you are emulating yourselves in Israel-Palestine. See above picture in above post. And while you're at it, keep drinking your own Kool-Aid.
by JT
As you may have noticed the US government is threatening war on Iraq. Maybe the US government should wage war on Israel? Or at the very least, the US should dismantle the racist Israeli government and transform it into a REAL democracy, with equal rights for all, including the Palestinians, and all the Palestinian refugees, who according to UN Resolutions and International Law have the right to return to their homeland.

Israel is supposed to be our ally. With allies like Israel, who needs enemies? (http://www.ussliberty.com)
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