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Iraq Mutiny?

by Collin Baber (roach747 [at] yahoo.com)
Reports are emerging about a potential U.S. forces mutiny in Iraq via multiple sources.
Soldiers in Iraq are being punished for disobeying what they believed was a "suicide mission".

Allegedly accused of cowardice and having a breakdown in discipline by their commander, the troops have refused to take part in an operation.

Two questions for the reader:

1. Is standing up to what is perceived as an irrational order a sign of cowardice?

2. Is a large group of soldiers, unified in resolve to fight what they believe is wrong, showing signs of a breakdown in discipline?

Share your anonymous thoughts here on Indymedia.



by @
Let's hope more soldiers follow their example.
by aaron
well, of course, mutineers are real heroes.

there's nothing brave or admirable about following orders mindlessly.

but i'd like to know more before reporting this "good news" to others. what are these "reports" of mutiny exactly?
by Daniel
In Vietnam GIs were refusing to fight and the US Army was falling appart, and that's what ended the war.
We need to support our troops who are refusing to fight.
by when will the fragging start?
It's only a matter of time.
by Christine Haupert-Wemmer
There is more than physical danger weighing on the recent mutineers in Iraq. There is also the abuse that is heaped upon anyone who bucks the system and refuses to act against their conscience. Keep a light on them. Go and tell the world exactly what is going on, and keep on telling it. (This has worldwide importance? You bet it does.)

I know, from my own experience, that doing civil disobedience and being incarcerated can be emotionally harrowing and dangerous, even when you are in a peaceful setting with a loving cohort of like-minded and empowered people. Saying no to any type of power is asking to face the collective wrath of a hostile authority, its agents, and its (passive but threatening) alleged base. However, saying yes to evil is turning one's face away from life and truth, and risks the end of all that is good. (Is this really such a lofty issue? You bet it is.)

Imagine what those 19 soldiers in Iraq, none higher-ranking than a sargeant, must be feeling and going through.Their lives truly are in danger, and that danger is not from "unfriendly fire." They have acted against what society has allegedly proclaimed to be unquestionable: a soldier's orders. But they have acted on behalf of what society allegedly claims to be sacrosanct: life. They all need and deserve a tremendous amount of support, and whatever protection might be provided by intense public scrutiny of their fate.

Think of their families, facing judgment in their hometowns, on the job, in community circles. Those families need to feel safe and know that they, their loved ones, and the Iraqi people are not the enemy, and that the "the terror" is a manipulation of minds created by greed. Their voices have brought this story to light at home, and they are as vulnerable and as crucial to this movement as those for whom they speak. (This is a movement? You bet it is.)

They are all heros, they are making history, and quite possibly changing history.(Perhaps they will help save the country and the world from George Bush!) I believe they will indeed change hearts and minds, and move us ever closer to ending war for all time. (That's happening? You bet it is.)

We cannot allow their story to fade or become censored or suppressed in any way in this era of audacious jingoism, outright theft of human liberties, and planetary destruction. Help them go and tell the world that enough is enough. Go and tell the world the truth about this war and all wars. Do it for the sake of this election and do it for the sake of the future.


by Brian Carroll (brianatcatskill [at] yahoo.com)
well its easy to say support them who refused to take a order but what are you actually supporting? are you supporting them but who is supporting the troops that the convoy was going to? what about them, the ones that needed the supplies?i guess they will be forgotten and the ones that did not support them glorified to all americans as the right thing to do to stop this war.or even horrified by others.well how funy it is! we at home need not to stop makeing the troops into chess peices to move around some board, but for the american citizens as a voting power to change it from within.stop looking at eye candy called news wich is constenly being bomboarded on the american republic and actually do something about it.whos wrong or right in this does it really matter?to the fam. of the troops in question,good luck and i hope for the best in your perdicment,to the fam of the troops that got their supplies a bit late good luck to you as well and hope for a safe return of all.to all americans ,well, support the troops and vote out the ones that benifit from war
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